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Tuesday, December 21, 2010

No Extra Credit Required

There have been some discussions in my neck of the woods lately about extra credit. It will probably surprise no one who’s been reading this blog for very long that I don’t like extra credit, don’t see a need for it, and think it actually undermines learning, but I’m not going to delve into that right now.

Instead, I wanted to reference one small piece of that discussion which revolved around offering students extra credit for charity-related activities like canned food drives or Toys for Tots. My thoughts on that are very similar, offering extra credit for students participating in charity-type activities not only undermines the learning, but it undermines the caring.

So when I wanted to give my students the opportunity to participate in some of my small activities around Kiva, I let them know there would not be any extra credit involved. It was not a requirement to participate, but I hoped they would. Now, I did challenge them a little bit with
Some folks think teenagers won’t do this kind of thing if there’s not a payoff for them in it – we’ll see if they’re right.
But it was all pretty low-key. I talked briefly about it that first day in class, referred to the blog post if they wanted to know more, then simply reminded them at the beginning of class each day that if they had any change to contribute that they could give it to me now or drop it by my office throughout the day.

Our goal was a quarter a day per student for the remaining ten days we had of class, which worked out to $62.50 for the twenty-five students in my class. We ended up at $77.26. (Including one student who chased me down in the cafeteria on the last day before break – which is three days after the last day my class meets – to hand me 85 cents.) I said I would match up to $100, so I’ll be matching with $77.26. My Dad apparently still reads my blog and he said he’d match at 50% of what I matched, so that’s another $38.63. And then Rob in Afghanistan, who I’ve blogged about before, sent me an email letting me know he would be sending me a $100 check as well.

So that works out to $293.15 (okay, I’m gonna chip in another $6.85 to make that $300). Now, I know that’s not a huge amount of money, and I didn’t take advantage of the full educational possibilities here (see some of Bill Ferriter’s excellent work with Kiva), but it will still make a difference for the entrepreneur(s) we fund with this (and, of course, when it gets paid back I’ll re-loan it again and again – that’s part of the beauty of Kiva).

Students are always going to want extra credit. At least they always will as long as we model for them that that’s the way things work. But I think if we lay out our thinking for them, they’re going to step up most of the time – just like my students did. Will teenagers do this kind of thing? Yes, they will.

And no extra credit is required.

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Blogger Gary said...

Karl,

Nice work on the Kiva fund-raising. It's a great thing.

I can't help but point out the obvious though. Grubbing for extra-credit would not exist if the school were not so addicted to grades and grading.

The only way to ensure maximum learning at each student's level to their fullest potential AND increase the empathy, collaboration and compassion we desire in students is to eliminiate the stakes associated with being judged, ranked or sorted.

Happy holidays!

Gary

12/21/10 10:19 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

Gary - I agree completely and am doing what I can to move in that direction.

12/21/10 10:26 AM  
Blogger John said...

This is odd. I just happened on your blog and it was the second thing I've read today about Kiva. I hadn't heard of it before today, but it has my attention now, that's for sure.

Thanks for the good read and the good idea!

John

12/21/10 6:08 PM  
Blogger Barry Bachenheimer said...

Karl-

Great post. I agree that extra credit has no place in schools. Much the same way that learning should be its own reward (or at least its own assessment)giving should be its own reward as well.

12/23/10 7:42 AM  
Blogger Mr. H said...

Thanks for participating Karl. I have written a post about this years event. http://makeitinteresting.blogspot.com/2010/12/so-how-did-025-day-work-out.html.

Let's do it again next year.

12/23/10 12:13 PM  
Blogger Stacy said...

I feel the very same way about extra credit and I don't use it in my classes; good to know that I'm not alone!

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Wednesday, December 15, 2010

Wikileaks, the TSA, and Ninth Graders: Want to Participate?

Hey, have you noticed anything in the news lately about some kind of leaking wiki? Or perhaps new and improved procedures at your favorite airport? Have you ever wondered if perhaps you could relate that to literature, and if perhaps high school students might have an opinion about these things?

Well, wonder no more. Anne Smith and Maura Moritz's classes will be discussing safety versus security in the context of Fahrenheit 451, 1984 and Little Brother:
We invite you to participate in a wonderful learning conversation with our ninth grade honors classes on February 3, 2011. After studying the world of dystopian fiction through classics such as Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451, George Orwell’s 1984 and the modern response, Cory Doctorow’s Little Brother, our students will engage in an intense discussion as their final project. We are inviting you to participate to help our students examine how these works play an enormous part in their world today through such relevant issues as Homeland Security, government censorship, information leaks, and safety versus security, to name just a few.

Our students will participate in a fishbowl discussion with live blogging and we will Ustream out the fishbowl discussion live so that you can hear the in-class discussion while participating in the live blogging.
So, head over to the post to learn more, or head over to the wiki to sign up to participate. We'd love to have you be part of this learning experience for (and with) our students.

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Blogger Carolyn Foote said...

Karl, Our 10th graders did their research papers/presentations last year over similar topics, but it's later in the spring semester.

Maybe we can hook both sets of students up once ours get started, and they can hear reflections from yours?

Let me know if Anne or Maura might be interested in doing that.

We finished the year last year with streaming online discussion panels on a variety of "security" versus "freedom" topics--was very topical.

12/15/10 10:25 PM  

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Tuesday, December 14, 2010

Tis the Season

Just like the last four years, I can't afford the postage to send this to all of you in my PLN. If you celebrate a holiday this time of year, then I wish you a good one. Thanks for all you do. And I wish all of you peace and happiness.

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