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Saturday, July 04, 2009

A Digital Footprint Growth Model

(Note: This originally started out as a comment on my previous post, but it turns out Blogger has a 4096 character limit on comments - who knew?! This post works best if you read the previous post and the great comments to that post first.)

Thanks for all the thoughtful comments. Instead of trying to respond to each one individually, I’ll try to sum up my thoughts in a reply specifically to Dan Maas’s comment. (FYI - Dan is my district’s CIO, and a good one.)

@Dan Maas – I understand the argument but, in the end, I don’t agree with it. I think back to what Tim Tyson said at the TIE Keynote when he asked, “How old do you have to be to make a meaningful contribution?” As Tim and others have argued, our current concept of childhood is really rather new. It was just a couple of generations ago when teenagers – and even younger – were expected to contribute to the family effort, whether it was farming or working in the factory or working in the family-owned business.

Now, I’m very happy that our children typically don’t have to work to help support the family, and I’m certainly not suggesting that we ask our kids to do hard labor. But I think our current period of “extended adolescence” is not good for our students – or our society. I disagree when you say that we ask kids to face adult issues earlier and earlier. I agree that we certainly have been exposing our kids to some adult issues earlier and earlier, and the concomitant pressure that goes with that, but I think we are actually shielding our kids from a responsibility for the life they are living right now. I think our students can make a meaningful contribution now, and that they can handle more responsibility for their actions – and their words.

I’m sensitive to the argument that our students shouldn’t be held to the exact same standards as adults, and that they should be allowed to make mistakes without it haunting them forever. But I think folks are incorrect when they single out technology and students’ digital footprints as somehow different in this respect. After all, students currently earn grades in high school that go on their transcript, and those are certainly looked at by colleges when determining admission. Would you suggest that our students should be anonymous and not have transcripts?

Our student-athletes currently compete under their real names, and statistics and highlight videos are shared with college coaches. Should they compete anonymously? (Or better yet, Dan, given your competitive nature, perhaps we just shouldn’t keep score? :-)

Our student journalists on the school newspaper and the yearbook currently “sign” their name to their stories and take credit – and blame – for their work, and that work is published and freely available (and, as you know, often picked up by local and sometimes national media). Should our newspapers and yearbooks be written anonymously?

And, of course, there’s the press releases that the school and district put out with full names, accomplishments and often pictures of our students; and the district website – take a look at the second story down that's currently on the LPS home page.

Yes, students will sometimes make poor choices and include items in their digital footprints that they should not (either due to inappropriateness or simply low quality). And, yes, our thinking does mature over time and sometimes our earlier thinking might be slightly embarrassing. And, if students are creating that footprint with their real names, it will indeed be part of their “permanent record.” But that’s even more reason to talk about this with them, and to have them create that footprint with their real names. As I said in the post, it will encourage them to be more responsible and help us to help them to be thoughtful in everything they do.

Aren’t we always espousing the idea that asking questions is good (“there are no bad questions”), that sharing our thinking is good (as well as reflecting on that thinking as well as others’ thinking), that responsible risk-taking is good and that we can and should learn from our mistakes (and that mistakes are part of learning – and life), that education is the process of “becoming” and that we want our students to learn and grow over time (lifelong learning) and we won’t hold them completely accountable for their former selves (formative versus summative)? If we truly believe those things, then aren’t we being hypocritical if we then say, “Whoa! You better not let anyone see that process.” Over time, their footprints should get better and better and future colleges/employers/spouses will be able to see the improvement and growth in their work.

It’s a Digital Footprint Growth Model if you will, and I think the vast majority of folks will take that into account and will appreciate the entirety of their footprint and not give undue weight to something posted as a ninth grader (or earlier). I think that those students who have a body of work to examine will have an advantage over those that do not (both in terms of their learning and in terms of their future prospects), and I think that any future colleges/employers/spouses that are unable to look at the growth appropriately (they “hold it against” the student in your verbiage) will end up being less successful because they will miss out on the best talent available. (While I’m not an unfettered capitalist, isn’t this essentially a free markets approach, that adults who can’t look at the entirety of the record will lose out in the marketplace to those that can and eventually will become “endangered”, if not “extinct”?)

In the end, I think we cannot make decisions for our students based on the fears and future ignorance of some adults. (“Fear always springs from ignorance.” Ralph Waldo Emerson.) We can do better. Let’s educate our students – and the adults in our communities – about how best to learn, work and live in a digital society. (“Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.” Benjamin Franklin.) If not us, then who? If not now, then when?

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Blogger annette said...

Although I like the idea of teaching students how to grow their online identity, I find myself disagreeing with your idea of grade 9 students creating a permanent digital footprint. In your post you say:

"After all, students currently earn grades in high school... Would you suggest that our students should be anonymous and not have transcripts?"

That is a little dramatic. Students and parents have control over who sees their transcripts. Typically it is just family and the registrars office at the colleges they apply to. They are not published anywhere for public consumption. Also, once you finish your undergraduate degree you never have to provide your high-school marks again. Why would I want my bad high-school poetry available to the world when I apply for my first big job? Why can't I start with a clean slate when I first enter an institution of adult learning?

I also don't think that the situation in the past where children were required to work in the fields is necessarily a good model for how we want children to take on responsibility now. The life expectancy was incredibly low then, and children needed to grow up, get married and start reproducing fast or miss the boat.

Now we ask them to develop as individuals, we ask them to learn a myriad of professional skills requiring many hours of learning. there is so much preparation required to become a competent adult that we have to understand that there is a longer on-ramp to adulthood than there was before the industrial revolution.

If you want to look at the past, for tradeskills there was a very long apprenticeship period with many stages where an apprentice was made to do tasks meant to prepare them for journeyman status. Only then could they complete a final project to become a master.

We give kids partial responsibility as they are ready for it, which is a bumpy and individual process best managed by parents and teachers. Handing a 13 year old full responsibility for their permanent digital footprint may not be appropriate for all children (in fact I am sure it is not). Giving children the time and space to develop as individuals, out of the spotlight, as they navigate the lingering aftereffects of puberty respects them as not fully developed humans.

As for the students whose name and pictures end up in the local papers - that is hardly the same as having the identity of each of your students available to anyone over the internet. Plus, newspapers have to get parental consent for any pictures they publish (at least they do in Ontario where I am).

Forcing students to put their full names and identities on the internet before they are entitled to vote or drive a car robs adolescents of their right to privacy as they develop. I agree they need to learn web skills, but I think you are asking them to reveal their whole selves to the world too early. Think of pseudonyms as training wheels, we let them go at their own pace, and when we take them off, we don't let go of the bike until they are ready to go!

So I would say let fluffybunny64 or student3978 stay partially protected at school for a little longer.

7/5/09 6:57 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@annette - Thanks for the thoughtful response. A few thoughts.

Why would you publish bad poetry if it was a meaningful and relevant assignment to you, and if you knew you were sharing it with the world? And if it wasn't meaningful and relevant, then why would we (schools) ask you to do it? Also, as I indicated, I really don't think anyone is going to hold it against you many years later (which is analogous to the transcript argument - it's relevant for admission to college or your first job only, so time-bound). If we as adults look at a ninth grader's poetry and judge them based on that, then we're the ones with the problem.

I think we probably disagree on when students are ready for responsibility. I think we spend too much time preparing students for the "real world" and to be "competent adults," and ignore the fact that school is the real world for them right now, and this is their real life. I think we do them a disservice when we treat students as "not fully developed humans." Many atrocious decisions have been made over the years using that kind of thinking applied to kids and groups of adults alike. Yes, our students will continue to mature and grow as humans, but that's a very different statement.

I agree that our students should be given the opportunity and space to develop as individuals, but I don't see that as in opposition to having a digital footprint attached to their real name. And I would suggest that it is best managed by parents, teachers and the students themselves. (Why do we continue to leave them out?) Our students have complete opt-out in my district for any assignment at any time for any reason. If there's something they don't want to publish, they don't have to. But why do we ask them to lie when they do have something to publish?

I don't see a whole lot of difference between stuff published in newspapers or broadcast on our TV stations and stuff published online - especially considering our students would have control over what they publish online, and besides those "local" papers and tv stations publish their stuff online as well. I would be very surprised if the high school athletes in Ontario have complete control over whether their names and stats are published in the paper, or whether they local tv station takes footage at the games. And none of the students in Ontario - or anywhere else - has much control over what happens to the print media (newspapers, yearbooks) that our schools currently produce and publish en masse.

I'm not suggesting that our students reveal their whole selves to the world, but that they carefully, thoughtfully, and purposefully create their online identity, with the scaffolding and help that we in schools can offer. If we don't help them do this, then fluffybunny64 will continue to see school and "the real world" as two different things, and will continue to think that life is something they should be "protected" from, instead of something that should be lived, and I think that would be a tragedy.

7/5/09 9:58 PM  
Blogger Matt Montagne said...

Why do we take zero objection to student first names/last names, etc being posted on school athletic team websites, but when it comes to using full names on rich academic ePortfolio learning spaces, we take objection? What kind of message does this send about the value of athletics in comparison to academics?

7/5/09 11:48 PM  

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Monday, June 22, 2009

Student Display Names: I Was Wrong

I had the opportunity to be involved with some staff development a couple of weeks ago around our Inspired Writing project. All of our freshmen Language Arts classes next year will have carts of Asus eee 1000 netbooks for use during class, with a focus on writing (and perhaps the broader idea of composing/creating if I’ve made any impact at all on my school).

As you might expect, the staff development focused heavily on the writing process and how we could use these netbooks to help with that process, but there was also a piece about Internet safety. It talked about the usual things, and was not a “scared straight” kind of presentation, so overall I thought it was done well. As part of the discussion that resulted we also talked about how students should identify themselves online and whether they should come up with a completely unidentifiable display name (except it would be known to their teacher), or whether they should use something like first name last initial (our current convention at the high school level).

The point was made that first name last initial really didn’t protect the students all that much, since – along with the readily available school information – it might not be that hard to completely identify the student. I gave my usual counterexample that – at the high school level at least – we already make more than that much information available all the time (often with photos) – in press releases, sports teams’ rosters, newspaper articles (both school newspaper and local/regional newspapers) booster club websites and, of course, television broadcasts of sporting events. While first name last initial probably isn’t that secure, it seems relatively anonymous compared to what we already make available.

But the reason for this post is that this got me thinking again about the whole idea of a student’s digital footprint. I talk a lot about how we should be discussing this idea with students and that whatever they publish – whether on a blog or a wiki or Facebook or MySpace or Twitter or. . . [fill in your favorite site here] - that it very likely will be able to be found later by a potential college, employer or spouse. I also talk about how we shouldn’t just be talking to students about not putting potentially compromising stuff out there, but that they should also be building a positive digital footprint, so that when they are Googled – and they will be – that folks will find really good stuff about them, that they should think of this as part of their digital resume/portfolio.

But if that’s a reasonable thing for them to be doing, then isn’t a policy of first name last initial (or especially the unidentifiable display names) actually counterproductive? Shouldn’t we instead be asking our students to use their full names to build their B-D (Birth-Death) digital footprint/resume/portfolio? I’ve long argued when talking about Internet filters that we should educate our students on how to be safe, ethical and effective users of the Internet instead of blocking everything, but now I recognize that I’ve completely blown it in this area.

I know there will be safety concerns, and there should be, but I’ve come to the realization that this is yet one more reason to educate our students about how to do this well, and that if we ask/require them to use their full name, it will actually encourage them to do this well. Instead of hiding behind unidentifiable or at least slightly disguised display names, students would now be asked to stand behind everything they put online with their full name, and also asked to be wise stewards of their online identity and reputation. Now, I’m not sure that I’ll be able to convince the folks in my school/district to go along with this, but I’m certainly going to give it a shot.

What are your thoughts? Can we do this? Should we do this?

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OpenID shareski said...

My initial and gut reaction is yes! I've been pretty vocal for building this footprint for a while.
http://ideasandthoughts.org/2009/05/07/academic-stages/

The struggle I have is around choice. While I would love all students to create these great public profiles, should they have the choice? At the same time, we really don't give them a choice if we publish their accomplishments in school newsletters or the local media. Because these are always "filtered" works or accomplishments, no one ever questions if it should be posted.

I know I have to work harder at presenting the option for students and teachers. I know the benefits and you know the benefits but we've a ways to go before parents, students and even teachers understand the benefits.

6/22/09 9:50 AM  
Blogger SCMorgan said...

We, as a school, couldn't come to consensus on this, so we compromised. From sixth to tenth grade, students use their first initials, FA (for the school) and their grad year (tdfa12) as the login for blogs, wikis, and other social media. But beginning in eleventh, we encourage them to go and change their logins to their real names, if possible. We talk often about creating that positive online presence. I actually talk about it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54lv68K6NZ8&feature=channel_page

6/22/09 11:24 AM  
Blogger Ian H. said...

Interesting discussion! In the past, I've just set up accounts for my students with first initial + last name. This year I let them choose their own, and while some went the same way as before, some chose some fantastical alias (SuperPirate, for instance). Because it wasn't always easy for me to associate a student with a login, I was considering going to your choice (first name + last initial) to protect privacy and to have a common login format across all blogs.

Now you're making me reconsider all that! Also, in a school of 2200 students, as more students begin using our blogging platform, we'd inevitably run into duplicates on a first name + last initial setup. Maybe full names is the way to go, since we're in high school and everything.

6/22/09 4:36 PM  
Blogger Damian said...

Funny, I was just discussing this with a friend over lunch today.

Although my personal preference is to see students publish with their full names, if I as a classroom teacher am given the choice between "they can publish anonymously" or "they can't publish at all", I'm going to go with anonymous publishing. I think that even with that condition, there are still benefits to be gained from publishing, and in many districts, getting permission to have any student work published online is no minor feat.

I'm interested to hear how your administrators respond to your advocacy. Fight the good fight.

6/22/09 6:12 PM  
Blogger Barbara Barreda K-8 Administrator, Tech integration advocate, Going 1:1 with netbooks said...

I think it is a real conundrum. Building a digital footprint is important but on the other side of the coin would I have wanted my adolescent and teenage thought process laid open for all. What I am saying is that as we mature so does our thinking. Over time we may find that we moderate our views on topics about which we were once very passionate. Yet in today's world those earlier opinions may come back to haunt us.

This weekend I was camping with some friends and one shared that in certain professions a digital footprint could be a problem. The example discussed was that of working as a lawyer. I am not sure I agreed with what was said but I did understand the issues.

So while my initial reaction is go for it....I also want to pause and think about what we are publishing.
Thanks for making me think...

6/22/09 7:07 PM  
Blogger Ms Sigman said...

I teach middle school students and am also in a district that allows students to peruse information online, but does not allow them to publish online. I want my students to publish online as there is immense power (especially when working with jr. high school students) in discovering that other people might actually be interested in what you have to say. I think that a changing point of view should be represented in one's digital footprint. It teaches one to be cautious, and also presents a well rounded person...hopefully. I believe that students should begin building their online identity as soon as possible, because any digital body of work needs time to be built.

That being said though, I think that students under a certain age need to be monitored consistently when they access the online webatorium of thoughts, ideas and dangers. Just as you would not let a grade school student go to the park without an escort I believe young students need a digital escort. I believe that jr. high should be a time of guided independence and then possibly in high school students would need to publish as independent thinkers. I think that using digital security measures would allay some of the need to protect a students' online identity. I definitely think that students should identify themselves as publicly as possible.

This also goes to the heart of issues like cyber-stalking and other forms of digital abuse of another individual. Anonymity allows students to avoid accountability for their actions.

6/22/09 9:03 PM  
Blogger blog for peace said...

interesting thoughts.

i have waffled back and forth. my latest landing - kids use initials - and at the end of high school - sort of like a final portfolio - they pull up all they are most proud of and repost with real names.
(allowing for what barbara refers to as protecting adolescent thought processes from world-wide transparency.)

reading your post today though karl- made me wonder if kids would indeed produce higher quality writing, etc, if they were publishing their true identity from the get go. would they put more stock into all they do in highschool?
i'm leaning towards yes. and am again rethinking full names.

6/23/09 8:13 AM  
Blogger meshmarketer said...

As a social media professional, I think it's great to be able to give students the opportunity to choose what kind of identity they want to use. Give them the pros and cons but don't force them to do it one way. Let them use their names or their nickname or a number. Let them build their digital footprint the way that they want to. You have an obligation to protect them from viruses and phishing scams and the like, but let them choose their lifetime online identity even if it will end up changing.

6/23/09 12:18 PM  
Blogger meshmarketer said...

And by the way, you can go to a garage sale and maybe find a yearbook with pictures, comments and the like with real names and that is not something that is protected. What matters is what we DO with that information legally or illegally; do we sacrifice self-expression for protection or do we give them the opportunity to make an informed choice?

6/23/09 12:20 PM  
Blogger Dennis Richards said...

I listened to a Cool Cat Teacher 1-26-07 podcast today with Vicki Davis, Darren Kuropatwa and Terry Freedman. Darren and Terry had served as two of four judges for the student work created as part of the 2006 Flat World Project: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=206531776 I think their conversation is relevant to this conversation.

In the podcast they speak about how best to communicate to students the expectations the judges will have for the student work. The all acknowledge the importance of doing so early in the project so students can grow into an understanding of their potential excellence. Rubrics are mentioned as a key feature in the conversation.

It's not so much a podcast with "answers;" rather it is a rich and robust conversation about how teachers, students and "judges" can begin to learn about and demonstrate standards of excellence.

A lot more in the podcast that I can't go into here. But for this conversation...

Is publishing your work online with your name attached a sign of intellectual leadership? When I take responsibility for my opinions and what I say, write, create, am I contributing to the community something of value?

It might benefit this conversation to think of rubrics (or stages of development or a continuum). If we consider Karl's description in the post to be what we want students to work toward, how would we flesh out the levels of performance for the rubrics, stages of development or continuum in ways that describe a natural order of student learning and growth?

If we do a good job of description with models and appropriate supportive learning experiences that engage and challenge the kids as they grow, couldn't each student then progress toward clearly visioned habits of responsibility and value as they demonstrate their readiness and capacity over time?

6/23/09 9:40 PM  
Blogger kells said...

great discussion here. (please note that we do not have the same issues here with parents, privacy, legalities here in nz as you do in the states).

as i have my year 11 students prepare real cv's for summer jobs, i encourage... no, i *push* that they use business-appropriate email addresses and screen names as they step into the adult world. after all, i tell them, who is going to email skuxxinsexybabe@hotmail.com for a job? well, maybe someone would; what do i know?

but after reading your post, and the others' replies, i realised that a) i'm grateful we don't have the same issues, and b) i didn't give much thought to how i handled my students id's. my juniors, with whom i am entering the blogging/wiki (wiki-ing?) arena, didn't get a choice. i created the user names on our blog site for each, and made it pretty simple: first name-9XX (class). of course, i have multiple popular names, such as matt, and those were matt-b-9XX, etc.

however, on our wiki, they joined with whatever name they wanted. while i encouraged them to use something i (and their classmates) would identify with them, some did choose their own original monikers, including one boy who chose a (long) series of numbers! i asked that they change them back. after all, it's a collaborative project, and if your peers can't identify you, how can they feel comfortable enough to share in an academic setting?

i personally move back and forth between personal (professional) and anonymous participation on the web. anything related to education is a personal endeavour, as i chose to build a professional network online. however, i prefer to participate in my hobbies anonymously, as i don't think my students, among others, need to follow me everywhere i go (i can't even update my family on facebook without students reading it, and they follow me on twitter too).

should students get a choice? i think it's an option students themselves should consider as part of their e-learning: choosing which part of themselves they want to share online, and how they want to do so. (of course, i can say this because i teach secondary school, not primary!)

i lean towards "no", they shouldn't get a choice. if they are participating in a class blog, or class wiki, or any other online academic project, they are representing their school to the world, just like they do on their teams and in their clubs, and as their school reps, they should be appropriately identifiable.

however, i look forward to the continuing debate!

6/26/09 4:52 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

I like the idea of an authentic digital footprint - and agree with most of your reasoning (and that of other comments). But I'll play devil's advocate - and probably sound like the district legal department... What about those kids who need to hide from an abusive situation? What about the kids who don't "get" the idea that their digital footprint goes beyond just their circle of friends and teachers. I was a fairly dumb teenager. I would hate for someone to judge me professionally at the age of 40 based on things I said and did at 14.

6/26/09 8:21 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

Lots of great comments here, folks, and I hope to get a chance in the next couple of days to respond to all of them. But, real quick before I board the plane, I wanted to respond to Dan's comment.

1) Yes, of course we would make exceptions for situations where there's an abusive situation or other case where a student needs to remain anonymous. But that doesn't apply to most students, and is not a reason not to do this for most students.

2) It's our job to help them figure this out - if they don't get it now, do you think they're going to get it if we don't do this with them? And I think those students that figure out from the age of 14 (or whatever) how to do this well will have an advantage, but I also think that most folks will be smart enough not to judge a 40 year old completely on what they said at the age of 14. And I think anyone that can't do that, I wouldn't want to work for anyway.

6/26/09 10:14 AM  
Blogger Dan Maas said...

I would cautious about over exposure of students and their identities online. We should be careful about applying adult sensibilities to minors. In an age when we ask kids to grow up and face adult issues earlier and earlier, I'm not convinced it is always healthy. As such, I would think the prudent course of action would be to set the default to a level of reasonable anonymity with student choice leading to any full disclosure of an identity tied to student work. Recall that a juvenile who commits a felony has that record expunged by age 18 because the courts realize that the decisions made as a minor should not be held against the adult version of the same person. As such, I suggest kids will claim credit for their work when they are ready and that we as educators should set our mindset on the cautious side of the spectrum so as not to push students into the deep end too quickly. We should not underestmiate the power and impact of global publishing and school should be a safe place to learn the ropes.

-Dan Maas

6/29/09 8:51 AM  
Blogger Trevor said...

I think Barbara may have hit on an important consideration...
"would I have wanted my adolescent and teenage thought process laid open for all?"


When addressing a student who as made a poor decision, I've been known to say "high school is a place where you get to make a few mistakes before it counts for too much... so I'm going to assume you learned something from this and let's move on".

I think perhaps students need some opportunities to learn about proper digital citizenship before it really counts for much... ie: having some degree of anonymity while in school might be a "good thing" and allow students to learn from minor missteps without any lasting consequences.

7/2/09 4:11 PM  
Blogger Ian H. said...

How will they know what the consequences are if they post as "FluffyBunny2025"? If they are going to learn how to build their digital selves (and let's not kid ourselves that they're starting that in high school anymore), there needs to be some weight behind the decisions they make w/r/t what to post, how to comment, etc.

7/2/09 6:05 PM  
Blogger Michael Roger said...

I as a classroom teacher am given the choice between "they can publish anonymously" or "they can't publish at all", I'm going to go with anonymous publishing. I think that even with that condition, there are still benefits to be gained from publishing, and in many districts, getting permission to have any student work published online is no minor feat.

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7/2/09 11:33 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

Okay, I had a really nice response to all this, but it turns out blogger has a 4096 character limit on comments. Who knew? (And, yes, I'm incredibly wordy.)

So, I'll create a new post with the comment I was going to make. Please read it if you're interested.

7/4/09 10:30 AM  

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Friday, June 05, 2009

Not Education as Usual on the Skype Blog

I just wanted to quickly point to this post on the Skype blog about our students interviewing Cory Doctorow via Skype:
The ninth grade students were going through a mock exercise to persuade school board members to add Doctorow's controversial 2008 book, Little Brother, to the reading list . . . So what could be better than to have Doctorow himself speak to the class and explain why ninth graders should be able to able to read his book?
The post also includes some nice quotes from AHS students Ashley and Laura, taken from the story in the School Library Journal. An interview of Anne Smith and me by Howard Wolinsky, Skype's U.S. blogger (via Skype, naturally) is embedded below.

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Blogger Denise Johnson said...

Hi Karl,
I love what you are doing with Skpe-I think it's critical literacy at it's finest. I recently presented at a conference and referenced your Skpe session with Daniel Pink. Would you share projects you know of at the elementary level?

6/6/09 8:39 AM  

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Tuesday, June 02, 2009

We Can Do This. We Should Do It.

I'm way behind in my "personal professional development through RSS" (i.e., I have a lot of unread items in Google Reader), but luckily I took the time to read this post by Scott McLeod. Scott embeds two presentations given by Dr. Richard Miller, the Chair of the English Department at Rutgers University.

I'm also going to embed the two presentations below (the second one is in two parts), and I think it's well worth your time to watch both of them, particularly if you teach Language Arts, but really if you care about education at all. After each presentation I've pulled a few select quotes that really resonated with me.

The Future is Now: Presentation to the RU Board of Governors



We're living in the time of the most significant change in human expression in human history.
Do you agree? If so, what implications does that have for the way we teach Language Arts? What about other subject areas?
This is the room we're particularly proud of - the Collaboratory.
OK, when I build my school, I'm so going to have a Collaboratory. Actually, every room will be one. Perhaps that should be the name of the school?
To compose, and compose successfully in the 21st century, you have to not only excel at verbal expression, at written expression, you have to also excel in the use and manipulation of images. That's what it means to compose.
Shades of "The Yancey." Note that this is additive - no one is suggesting that words don't matter, that what we traditionally think of as "writing" is no longer important, but that the very nature of composition is more complex now, and that our instruction, our pedagogy, our learning spaces need to reflect that.
This is all building towards a larger vision of the humanities for the 21st century.
. . . In the New Humanities what we imagine at the center is this collective, collaborative kind of composition.
Social construction. Social composition.
The real function of the humanities is to engage in the art of creativity - moment by moment - to improve the quality of the world we live in.
I'm certainly not a linguist, but doesn't that get back to the root of "humanities?" And have perhaps some of our academic treatments of the humanities forgotten the human part that should be the center of our work?
That's writing in the 21st century. It's multiply authored, it's multiply produced, and that's where English is going.
Is that where English is going in your school?





This Is How We Dream (Part 1 and Part 2)





It has never been a more important moment for this profession, or for people who take reading and writing seriously.
Do you agree? If so, what implications does that have for your school? Your classroom?
I spent my time understanding writing as a solitary activity . . . I'm a person of the book.
Writing (composing) is no longer exclusively a solitary activity. And we need to expand our definition of composition beyond only text and beyond only a specific medium (book, research paper, academic journal).
An assignment for a class I taught for first year students called Creativity and Collaboration.
This is a class I'll be offering in my new school (The Collaboratory).
Ideas don't belong to us individually, but they belong to us as a culture. And that we as educators must be in the business of sharing ideas freely.
Shades of Pesce.
The limits and restrictions are largely ones we put on ourselves.
No excuses.
This is a way to push ideas into our culture. Why wouldn't we be at the front edge of that?
Yes, why wouldn't we?
We do not have a pedagogy on hand to teach the kind of writing I'm describing. It needs to be invented.
Alan Kay said the best way to predict the future is to invent it. The best way to figure out what composition should look like in the 21st century is to co-create it.
We can do this. We should do it.
We should get started.

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Blogger Ms. Donnelly said...

Interesting! I will share this with my HS colleagues.

6/3/09 7:24 PM  
Blogger lesliekm said...

As a literacy person, and someone interested in learning in the 21st century...I say, it's about time! I am a little concerned that he dismisses libraries in his process. I think that librarians are information specialists that can help us teach our students how to find the information that will help them to communicate. Will that go away? I think that schools are there to teach our students how to do this better than they could on their own, offering them tools, ideas and habits of mind that they might not get on their own. K-12 must have someone who helps kids to do this, and for now, teachers are not trained information managers or specialists, we need these experts to assist us.
The collaboratory is fantastic. And what a great model for sharing a straightforward lecture... there are layers of goodness here. Thank you for sharing it with us!

6/6/09 2:11 AM  

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Saturday, May 30, 2009

Thought for the Day 5-30-09

If your organization requires success before commitment, it will never have either.
Seth Godin, Tribes, p. 132.

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OpenID andrewbwatt said...

Amen.

Truer words may never have been spoken.

5/30/09 10:54 AM  

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Monday, May 25, 2009

Why Should Your District Continue?

Ben Grey had an interesting post recently where he asked:
Why should your district continue to use and pursue technology?
I think it's the wrong question, albeit asked for the right reasons and it certainly is generating some interesting discussion. So I left a comment on Ben’s post and suggested two different questions that I think are more interesting (to me, at least, we’ll see if they are to you).

First question:
Why learn?
I think a discussion around this question might ultimately help with what Ben was trying to get at.

The second question, and really the reason I decided to post this on my blog, simply removes the last five words from his question.
Why should your district continue?
I think this is a much more interesting question, and one that I’m not asking lightly. I think we need to go back to first principles - or perhaps first “principals” :-)
Why do we exist as an institution?
I’d like you to pretend for a moment that you live in an alternate reality, one where right now, for the first time, someone is proposing universal schooling for all children between the ages of five and eighteen. Now, pitch me your proposal for your school district (or, for folks not in a school district, for your institution). Justify your existence. Tell me what your mission is, and why your institution (as constructed in our current reality) is the best solution to achieve that mission.

If you were starting your school right now, from scratch, would you? Or would your solution look very different?

I think your answer is very important. Don’t you?

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Blogger lesliekm said...

This is a really important question. I would argue it is extremely timely as well. As we see district across this country taking on a new tune of fire everyone and rehire who we want in efforts to create change. It tempts you into thinking, at first glance, "yea! Clean slate! Let's do this!" But is it a clean slate? How are they making the choices of who to keep and who to let go in these situations? My obserations are showing me the decisions are poorly made and based on the wrong ideology of what education should be about. This is why your question is needed and SO timely.

Your description of starting from the ground up is critical now- this is where our heads need to be in education. Whose heads are here? How do we create a critical mass to actually begin again anew?

5/25/09 9:16 PM  
OpenID andrewbwatt said...

Mine would be a middle school or high school. I would start with a high-powered webserver, a laptop or netbook for every child, a high-quality printer, and a store-front classroom with a well-equipped science lab, a lounge, a movement lab (yoga/dance/martial arts), workspaces, and a gallery at the front. In other words, I'd give kids access to the world, and I'd make the school permeable to the larger world by placing downtown right outside the front door. And their work would be visible at the front of the school, all the time.

We'd have ten subjects instead of five: Western Humanities (English Language and grammar, Spanish and one other Romance Language), Eastern Humanities (Chinese, Chinese characters, literature & grammar), Mathematics, World Culture, Art, Music, Biology, Physics/Chemistry, Computer Programming, and Body (health, sex, athletics).

Each 'classroom' would have a guide, whose job would be partly as a teacher, an administrator and as a social networker. Her job would be to connect students in her space with competent adults in chosen fields, help assess students' abilities, schedule group programming, and schedule labtime for other 'schools' in the same system within her 'school's' laboratory.

The 'campus bounds' would be set as a neighborhood line, and kids would be able to travel through that area on errands, on drawing and interviewing assignments. All school work would end with public projects, either visible as written work on the school website, or as physical art in the school windows, or a concert/recital in the gallery.

Every two to four years, the students would work at the direction of a general contractor, electrician, plumber and architect to redesign and rebuild their space.

To graduate, a student would need to demonstrate spoken proficiency in three languages, writing in two, mathematics through trigonometry, drawing, a musical instrument, completion of a long-term science project, and a successful computer program.

There would be no grades.

5/26/09 5:21 AM  

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Monday, May 18, 2009

Cory Doctorow Interview: Ustream Archive

Today was the day our students Skyped with Cory Doctorow asking him about his book Little Brother. Overall, it went very well. He spent about forty-eight minutes answering their questions (well, more like forty-one minutes, as the first seven minutes before the official start was small talk as we connected early just to make sure we didn't have any issues). He was very engaged, listened to their questions, and made some passionate arguments.

I've embedded the ustream below. Please note a few things. First, as I indicated above, the first seven minutes are small talk (although interesting as well, I think); the formal question and answer portion starts at about the seven minute mark.

Second, the audio quality starts decreasing about halfway through. Not sure if that was a Skype issue, or bandwidth issues on his end or ours, but you'll have to concentrate more as it goes on to understand his end.

Third, you'll notice there are three students asking the questions. This was actually a group of four students, but the fourth student was in a final exam so couldn't be present for this part. Due to scheduling conflicts, this was the best time we could come up with, so the students asking the questions, as well as about twenty-five other students in the audience, were all there in between their scheduled final exams.

Finally, this was part of an assignment where students are reading books that are sometimes controversial and then making a case for why the book should be approved or not by a school board. This particular group was presenting during the final exam period that was directly after this Skype call with Cory Doctorow. They purposely made their first formal question to him be why he though the book should be read by ninth graders so that, less than forty minutes later, they could pull up the archived ustream and easily play his answer (since it was at the beginning - well, after the small talk) as part of their presentation (which they did). Very. Nice.


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OpenID andrewbwatt said...

I'm really envious that you can get Cory Doctorow to speak live to your class. Is it easy to do? Several kids in my ninth grade class were big fans of Little Brother, and I'd love to connect him to them before the end of the year, if it's possible.

Of course, the "end of the year" for us is Friday, so it's probably too late.

5/21/09 5:04 PM  

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Thursday, May 14, 2009

Things Just Changed. Again.

Do you teach math? Science? Geography? Economics? Health? Business? Language Arts?

Wait, let me start over.

Do you teach?

Wait, let me start over again.

Are you alive, and curious?


Okay, that’s better. I think this is worth 13 minutes of your time. Go watch it, then come back.

I believe Wolfram Alpha is supposed to go live tomorrow. It’s obviously still very, very new (will they change its name to Wolfram Beta later? That will mess up the URL’s. Kidding.) It will be interesting to see what kinds of searches lend themselves to this more computational approach and what kinds don’t, but I still think this is another big step in how humans find, access, digest and repurpose information. Designed to “compute answers to your specific questions,” this once again should make us examine what we are doing in our classrooms, and how we should best prepare our students to be successful in an age with this much computational firepower.

What facts (discrete pieces of information?) do we need to know in order to develop deep understandings of important concepts, and what facts can we just google or wolfram (or will the verb be alpha)? What previously unknown relationships might be teased out of the data by the Wolfrom Alpha algorithms, or what will humans looking at this data in new and unique ways discover? What new questions will we learn to ask, or will we learn to ask old questions in new ways? (You can also view a much longer talk by Stephen Wolfram at the Berkman Center. No, I have not watched it all yet.)

Also note that Google is evolving as well. Joyce Valenza has a good summary post over at School Library Journal that discusses the new features. I also thought this quote she shared from a Google presenter was interesting,
If users can’t spell, it’s our problem. If they don’t know how to form the syntax, it’s our problem. If there’s not enough content, it’s our problem.
Hmm. I wonder whose problem it is if our students don’t know how to question, ask/search, find, evaluate, synthesize, repurpose, remix, and solve problems using tools like Google and Wolfrom Alpha?

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Blogger DXR said...

Very cool! Thanks for the link and educating me...today.

5/14/09 9:19 PM  
Blogger Teach42 said...

Way cool! I think I had trouble wrapping my mind around it because I kept wanting to think of it as a search engine. It looks like a search engine and behaves similarly to a search engine. But obviously it isn't one. And quite simply, there will be things this will work for and things that it won't. It'll be interesting to see how it develops and how many of these basic 'computations' it can really incorporate.

Looks ambitious, can't wait to play around with it! Thanks for sharing.

5/15/09 6:04 AM  
OpenID heidical said...

Oh, wow. THIS is what I learned today. Thanks for alerting us!

5/15/09 8:06 AM  
OpenID Andrew B. Watt said...

I experimented with Wolfram|Alpha over the weekend, then alerted my faculty colleagues to it via school email this morning.

As I said in my blog this morning, "Blocking content on the Internet is tantamount to admitting that your school can’t do better than what your students find there on the ‘Net. It’s proof that your institution can’t deal with change. It’s a demonstration that your teachers and administrators are unable to cope with new knowledge or new means of accessing knowledge."

I'm saddened to admit that most teachers responded with hopes for a block, or suggestions that we should just not let students know that this website is out there. Sad, very sad.

5/18/09 12:29 PM  
Blogger lesliekm said...

HOLY Smakerel! WOW! This is a game changer. In the 90's "we" were saying, why teach kids to memorize basic computational facts because they will have calculators, instead teach them how to think about math and problem solve. Now THIS takes that whole idea to a WHOLE 'nother level. But the underlying premise is the same...TEACH kids to THINK and QUESTION and LEARN! Inquiry will be the core of learning...Thanks so much for sharing this with us.

5/21/09 2:22 PM  

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Create A Movement

This TED Talk by Seth Godin is worth 17 minutes of your time. After you watch it, some thoughts are below the embed.



Here are a few semi-random thoughts that were generated by this talk. I’m not saying that he’s necessarily right about everything, but he raises some interesting questions that are worth thinking about.

What do I do for a living? Seems like a simple question, but – as Seth Godin points out – perhaps it’s not. I used to answer, “I’m a math teacher” or “I teach math.” Over time that shifted to “I teach students math” and then simply “I teach students.” But I find myself agreeing with him that perhaps that’s too “narrow” of a definition of what we in education try to do: we try to change everything.

Every day we should at least try to step on that light bulb, clearly indicating that there was “before,” and now there’s “after;” that at this moment in time we changed something in our students’ lives. If we don’t aspire to that, if we accept a too-narrow definition of what we do for a living, then we relegate ourselves to mediocrity.

Godin says that the way we make change is by leading, and that leading is simply helping to connect people and ideas. And, at this moment in time, we are at a tipping point (dare I say a moment of “shift”), because the technology allows us to connect in ways that previously were unimaginable or impractical (see Shirky’s Here Comes Everybody). And we can find others that are interested in and passionate about the same things, not by forcing them, but because we want to be connected. We need to be connecting as educators and, just as importantly, we need to be helping our students connect.

He goes on to say that we need to find folks that are disconnected, but already have a yearning; people who are just waiting for someone to lead them. (Sound like anyone you know?) We need to be heretics, who look at the status quo and say, “I can’t abide it.” (What’s wrong with the status quo? Unless you don’t see any need in the world, any disaffection, any hurt or disconnectedness, then we must try to improve on the status quo.) Is this in your curriculum? Perhaps not in so many words, but it should be, so I’m asking you to add it. Right now.

Godin then says there are three questions to ask yourself if you’re trying to lead something. If educators are leaders, then we need to ask ourselves these same questions.
  1. Who are you upsetting? If you’re not upsetting anyone, then you’re not changing the status quo. (Note that this is not upsetting people just to upset them, but rather with a purpose, with a goal, with an important change in mind that’s necessary to improve things for someone. Editor’s note: I’ve got this one nailed. Unfortunately, I don’t think it stands on its own.)

  2. Who are you connecting? (Think outside your classroom walls for a moment here. Nothing wrong with connecting inside your classroom, but some of those students have yearnings that don’t match up with others in their classroom, so help them find their tribe.)

  3. Who are you leading? (Don’t limit this to the students in your classroom, or the adults in your building/department; leading is not limited by proximity or geography anymore. Also some folks will protest that they don’t want to lead or that’s not in their job description. I say it should be, and I’d ask you to add it now.)
Godin concludes by asking his audience to create a movement, to find their tribe. So, what are you waiting for?

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Blogger PNaugle said...

I had just watched the TED talk featuring Seth Godin shortly before I saw your tweet. As he talked about connecting with tribes I couldn't help but think about Twitter. I have only been a member since February, but I am making so many wonderful connections with other educators. I have even joined some "tribes" on Twitter.

If leading is helping to connect people and ideas then I am slowly starting to be a leader. Thanks to Twitter I have grown my PLN and love connecting and sharing ideas with these people.

I was a teacher who used to say I teach 4th grade math. Now I say I teach students how to find answers and become lifelong learners.

I really like the light bulb analogy and plan to step on at least one light bulb one each day.

5/12/09 10:27 PM  
Blogger blog for peace said...

nice connections to teaching karl. thank you. upsetting, connecting, leading. i appreciate the focus you helped create in my head just now.

speaking of connections -
how did your expanded school board grading session go?

i just finished richardson's blogs, wikis, podcasts - (i think that should be standard reading for teachers today.) the whole idea of making those connections.
when richardson talked about the need for kids to publish - and publish usefully - not just to end up in a recycle bin at the end of the year - i thought of you and that grading process. how meaningful for the kids - to connect to others and find more meaning/purpose to their project/product.

hoping you'll post sometime the benefits your kids got from that specific process. that's one of my goals for next year. useful end products.

5/13/09 3:39 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@PNaugle - I like the "shift" in what you say you do. Go break some light bulbs today.

@blog for peace - the virtual school board sessions are coming up Friday, Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.

5/13/09 8:17 AM  
Blogger Mike H said...

I agree with what you mean about upsetting people. Yesterday, a teacher who is almost 2 years behind in fulfilling her state mandated technology standards asked if it was okay to use Google to demonstrate one of the requirements (an internet search, difficult, huh?) Well, it asks for a Boolean search and most teachers when they turn in their work don't do a Boolean search, so they have to do it over.

Anyway, to avoid that, I told the teacher that while using Google, make sure it's a Boolean search. She replied back via email,"tell me what that is."

So I told her that really, she should find out on her own instead of me just giving her the answer. I even explained it as a skill that teachers should model for students so they can learn on their own, rather than just relying on teachers to give them the answers.

She still isn't talking to me.

5/14/09 12:06 PM  

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Thursday, April 30, 2009

Great Expectations

So, here’s the problem. Once your students find out that we have the capability to blog and/or videoconference with authors and professionals from around the world, they think we should do it all the time. Imagine that.

I blogged earlier about needing virtual school board members, as our students will be making their cases about whether certain controversial books should be approved – or not – by the school board. (Again, to review, this is simulated, they are not actually taking this to the school board, we’ve just invited our school board – and some of you as virtual school board members - in to be an authentic audience, and most of these books are on our approved reading list already.)

One of the books the students chose was Little Brother, by Cory Doctorow (some of you may also know him from Boing Boing). It goes along nicely with other books they read as part of our curriculum (1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, etc.). Well, one group of Anne Smith’s students promptly emailed him to ask him some questions about aspects of his book that might cause a school board not to approve it (underage drinking, drug use, a sex scene, conflicts between adults and children, etc.). Mr. Doctorow replied with several thoughtful paragraphs about each of their questions. They replied back to him, thanked him, and then said, “Oh, by the way, any chance you’d like to Skype with us?” (Well, okay, they said it more formally – and much better – than that, but you get the point.) As you might suspect, since I’m blogging about it, he said yes.

The only catch was finding a time that worked for everyone (our students’ schedules, his schedule, the fact that he’s in London – seven hours ahead of us, our final exams are coming up, etc.). We finally came up with May 18th, at 9:15 am Mountain Daylight Time, UTC/GMT -6. Oh, you’re welcome to join us (assuming all the tech works), as he gave us permission to ustream it as well (primarily for parents to watch if they want, but you can as well on our ustream channel).

I really like this on several levels. First, obviously, the ability for students to converse with an author about his work is powerful. Second, it demonstrates how easy it is to connect with others, no matter where you – or they – live. But third, and perhaps most important in the long run, I love the fact that these students knew a capability existed, assumed it was their prerogative to take advantage of that, and then took the initiative to contact Mr. Doctorow. If we not only enable our students to be connected learners, but also change their mindset so that they expect to be connected learners, we’ve done a good thing.

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Blogger Mr Steve said...

awesome. totally awesome.

usually we only get to interact with authors at a book signing in a formal q&A or in with a quick comment as they sign their name. This is a great opportunity for students to engage in meaningful dialogue with an author. congrats.

on the other hand will this bias students against reading "dead white guys" because they won't be able to interact with them after they've finished reading them?

5/1/09 12:15 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Mr. Steve - That's always a possibility, but I don't think so. I think we - as educators - can make a case for why we should read authors that are no longer with us (or who are, but who we can't connect with). And, if we can't make that case, perhaps we shouldn't be reading them.

Of course, I'm sure Google will be releasing GoogleSeance pretty soon . . .

5/1/09 12:19 PM  
Blogger Carolyn Foote said...

Truly awesome :) You've all empowered them!

5/2/09 9:09 PM  
OpenID 21clearners said...

That is amazing. And for them to begin advocating for themselves is a goal that all educators should be aspitring to. That is brilliant. I am looking to get my kids to start thinking like it is their perogative to speak with authors and experts.

I set up a wiki for a debabte class I am teaching this quarter. Students construct their arguments on their blog page and I invited 2 practicing lawyers, a philosphy professor and a judge to be a part of this wiki. They are able to guide and help students with their reasoning and evidence. It has been tremendous, but I would love for students to begin seeing the world more "flatly" like yours do. Outstanding work!

5/7/09 4:31 PM  
Blogger tomw said...

Add to this anecdote to the ever-increasing list of reasons why teachers need to step away from the podium, stop spoon feeding, and allow kids to truly discover.

I'm starting to feel guilty for all the times I did all the thinking and learning for my students.

The ed tech revolution is eradicating the need for middle-men(teachers) like myself.

5/8/09 8:10 PM  
Blogger Wesley Fryer said...

Super job, Karl! How amazing that you're changing student expectations of engagement and interaction like this for their learning at school.

If possible please record this conversation with Cory and post it... I'm sure many others would love to hear his thoughts and responses to your students' questions!

5/10/09 6:01 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Wesley Fryer - If all the tech works, it will be ustreamed, which will then be archived (if my brain works and I remember to click record).

5/10/09 6:38 PM  
Blogger Gary said...

This is all good. I think students should be empowered to seek expertise. I've long done so myself and so have my students.

I would be concerned if students developed a sense of entitlement that anyone should talk to them any time or that books will be assigned only if the students can "talk" with the author.

BTW: The only scheduling conflict that should matter is the schedule of the expert donating his/her time and expertise. The fact that your school needed to worry about exam schedules, class periods, etc... are symptomatic of a dysfunctional school system. (IMHO of course)

By the way, is stuff happening of this energy level in other departments of your school?

5/17/09 10:13 PM  
Blogger Gary said...

Karl,

I would also love to discuss with you and your colleagues ways in which these experiences might be even richer.

5/17/09 10:14 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Gary - I certainly don't want "entitlement," but I don't see that here. I very much see empowerment, and I do think they should feel "entitled" to seek out folks, as long as they don't expect that they'll always be available.

As far as only being assigned books where they can talk with the author, see my comment to Mr. Steve above.

Agreed on the schedule issues, but we're working with what we've got here. And I'm struggling with the 'H' in your IMHO . . . :-)

In other areas of our school we are starting to make some progress (Bio teacher connected with a college Bio professor to do a CoverItLive on evolution, several folks have brought in local "experts" to speak with students), but not nearly as much progress as in a few Language Arts teachers' classes. But it's a start, and it provides some proof of concept to other teachers that might have been wary to try something like this.

5/18/09 8:31 AM  
Blogger Gary said...

Karl,

I'm with you. I agree with 99% of what you said.

I find that I have to explain to grad students that not every author uses a computer or can use Skype or wants to be uStreamed. That doesn't make their work or expertise less desirable.

I was (IMO) pointing out the obvious obstacles that school poses, even when trying to do something simple or wildly educational.

Your observation about momentum in your school MAY be evidence of the following phenomena.

1) Most current edtech is concerned with language arts. That's what schools DO with computers. No surprise since language arts is the content area that dominates most of schooling.

2) Web 2.0, in particular, may be especially suited to language arts. Other technology may be needed to awaken the other disciplines.

I'd like to share a suggestion or two for enriching the book discussions, but don't wish to engage in combat to do so.

5/18/09 11:22 AM  
OpenID purly said...

I love what you are doing with trying to provide a connected learning experience to reinforce the things you are teaching to your students. I only hope you don't end up like Mr. John Gatto (the sort of John Galt of the education world, who decided to stand up and be the heretic monkey.) Anyways, you probably already know about him and probably have something to say on the topic?

6/4/09 7:16 AM  
Blogger Gary said...

Remind me to tell you about my close encounter with John Taylor Gatto sometime.

6/4/09 11:36 AM  

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