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Thursday, April 29, 2010

Transparent Algebra: In-Class Part 2 of TBD (When are we ever going to use this Wednesdays)

Does this sound familiar?
Student: Mr. Fisch?

Me: Yes?

Student: When are we ever going to have to use this?
Math teachers get this question a lot.

A.

Lot.

In the past my answer was typically one of the following:
You’ll need this in [fill in the name of the next math course they have to take].

If you go into a career in math, science or engineering, you’re really going to need this.

It teaches you reasoning and problem solving, and that will help you in whatever you do.

I really don’t know.
Yeah, I don’t like those answers much. The problem is, I often really don’t know, other than a vague sense of particular careers, careers that many of my students may not have an interest in. I’m hoping to do a better job of answering that question this time around, and I have a couple of tools at my disposal that I didn’t have last time.

First up, obviously, is the Internet itself, as well as various communication mediums like my blog and Twitter where I can reach out and ask those kinds of questions. While I certainly intend to do that (or, better yet, have the students do that), this post is more about my second option: Skype.

In my previous incarnation as a math teacher, it was certainly possible to try to find guest speakers that could come in and talk to my classes about how they use math. But it certainly wasn’t convenient (especially since my one class next year starts at 7:21 am), and the speaker had to be local, willing, and available. Often if you tried to bring a speaker in, you had to make it more of a big deal in order to justify the event, especially if it involved getting students out of class in order to have the speaker speak once to a large group.

This time I’d like to make it be not such a big deal, but more of a semi-regular occurrence in my class, just part of what we do. So my plan is to fairly regularly invite folks in via Skype to talk with my students (not saying I wouldn’t take a speaker in person, but remember the 7:21 am start time, as well as having to be local and available). Despite the title of this post, this may not always be on Wednesdays (although I like the alliteration of it), and I’m not sure how often to shoot for. My current thinking is that I want this to be often enough that it’s part of what we do, but not so often that it just becomes routine, so perhaps once every 4-5 weeks (still thinking about that).

I’m going to reach out to folks in a variety of places, including universities, companies and my PLN, and try to get folks from many different fields with multiple interests to Skype into my class for perhaps 20-25 minutes or so (depending on the speaker – if they want more time, then I’d provide that, but I don’t want it to be such a commitment that it discourages folks). I’d provide a little bit of background information ahead of time on the speaker and/or their field of work, and then the students will be responsible for researching a little bit more and generating questions they’d like to ask.

While I’m still thinking this part through, I’m considering having the students submit their questions via Google Moderator (part of our Google Apps installation) and then the class can vote up the questions they think are the best. Then when our guest Skypes in they can spend perhaps 8-10 minutes talking about what they do and their use of/thoughts on mathematics, and then the students would ask their questions.
What do you think? Give the voted-up questions to the speaker ahead of time and have them just address it after their intro? Or have the speaker just answer on the fly as the students ask the questions?
I’d also record the Skype call and post that to our class web page for further review by the students, or for their parents or other students who might be interested. I toyed with the idea of ustreaming it to try to allow parents to watch it live to get them more involved, but am worried that I’m taking on too much all at once (second computer, second webcam - adds complexity and stress).
What do you think? Is it worth the added time and hassle to ustream it out to parents?
So, I’d love feedback on this idea in the comments, but I’d also like your help generating a list of folks to contact. I’d appreciate that if you know someone that might be appropriate and willing to participate, or if you are someone who is appropriate and willing to participate, that you fill out this Google Form (also embedded below) and give me a brief description and some contact information. Please note that the results of this are public (and embedded below the form itself) so that others can use this information as well. If you’re interested, but don’t want the info you give to be public, please email me directly instead. I have no idea if this will generate much response here, but I figured it was worth a shot – thanks in advance if you’re willing to share.

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Blogger loonyhiker said...

This sounds great and would love to listen to your results. I was thinking that this would be great as a voicethread also. Each question could be put on a different page and you can invite people to answer the question on the voicethread.

4/29/10 4:20 PM  
Blogger NoT...InSaNe...yet!!! said...

This is a wonderful idea. I have posted videos to sites, but never Skype "sessions".
I like the idea of not having a set time...but perhaps at the beginning of each unit..or major topic...or maybe just when you find that a person you know "fits" into the curriculum. Please keep us updated as to your progress and critics.

5/4/10 7:33 PM  
Blogger Dana Levesque said...

Love the idea, I will volunteer my husband Bern Levesque he is an engineer and crunches numbers all day (and loves it).

I like the idea of questions ahead of time. I know this may sound odd, but many adults are a little nervous about what a high schooler might ask them. I think it gives your presenter some time to reflect, and even the option to focus their introduction of themselves more closely to the concerns/questions the students asked.

5/6/10 3:30 PM  
Blogger Amanda said...

As a past and current hater of math, I very much appreciate some of the explanations of its usefulness and would have really appreciated it back when I was in high school asking teachers those very questions. I knew I was never going to be an engineer, or a nurse, or any other profession that required any more than the daily amount of basic math. As a reading teacher and a student finishing my secondary certification in social studies, I still hate math and cringe to think about those painful classes and the teachers that only passed me to see me graduate. I love the idea that it teaches you to reason, helps develop your growing brain, and is an area worth studying. Some of us are good at it and some, like me, are just terrible. All I ever got for an answer was "because you have to do it in high school. Don't ask if you'll ever use it or not, it doesn't matter, you have to do it now." Not a good enough answer! Kids ask the same thing about social studies and studying history when it's not their cup of tea...we have to be able to justify to students why what we are teaching them is worthwhile to their lives, or all teaching is lost. If there's no value in it, why should they do it? Good for you for going above and beyond. It's worth it!

5/6/10 6:48 PM  
Blogger Holterjenny said...

Love the idea!

7/5/10 4:22 PM  
Blogger Holterjenny said...

This idea sounds wonderful! I agree with giving speaker the questions ahead of time. They will feel more prepared and won't feel attacked by all the students and their questions. This will also help the students grasp a more hands on true understanding of Why Math???

7/5/10 4:24 PM  

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Tuesday, April 27, 2010

Daniel Pink Ustream and CoverItLive Archive

We had a fantastic session with Daniel Pink today. He was even better than he was the first two years (and the first two years he was very good). He seemed more relaxed and really engaged the students in conversation more.


The ustream and CoverItLive archives are embedded below. Unfortunately, the sound on the ustream wasn't great. A lot of static at the beginning, although that gets a little better after about 5 minutes, but still isn't great. But if you're interested in A Whole New Mind, or in the process of skyping with an author, it's still worth your time.




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Monday, April 26, 2010

Transparent Algebra: In-Class Part 1 of TBD (Openers)

Now that I’ve discussed my return to the classroom and talked a little bit about assessment, homework, and my fledgling concept list, I want to move on to what we’ll actually be doing in class. As you can tell from the title, this will be broken down into multiple posts, with the total number still to be determined. First up is openers.

(Note: I used to call these warm-ups, but - and this is probably just semantics – I don’t really like the connotation of that. That somehow we’re “warming up” for the real work that’s to come, and that this isn’t that important. I like “opener” better because it feels like it begins the learning for the day, not just prepares you to begin. I’m probably over-thinking that.)

I have a love/hate (well, okay, like/dislike) relationship with openers. I like them because they get kids thinking about mathematics as soon as they walk into the room (even before the bell rings), they provide a way for students to get more practice with Algebra and mathematical thinking, and because they are a nice companion piece to my (still evolving) assessment plan. I also like them because some students really like and respond to routine – they know when they walk into my class what to expect (at least in the beginning).

But that’s also part of what I dislike about them – the routine. Some students also really dislike the routine of a typical math classroom, where they know they’re going to start with the same ‘ole openers each day. And while I like getting them thinking about mathematics right away, I dislike the way it interferes with the more personal interaction/relationship building that I would like to take place as I greet and talk with students each day. While that can still happen with openers, I think there is at least an implied pressure to get started on them, and it makes it a little harder (at least for me) to be spontaneous.

Despite my misgivings, my current thinking is to go with openers because I feel they’ll help me maximize the learning time with my students. I don’t want to waste even a minute of the limited time I have with them, so this helps me approach that unattainable goal.

What’s on the Openers?

Glad you asked. Here’s a proof-of-concept (yes, saying proof-of-concept makes me feel important) PDF of a fictional opener that might theoretically occur the day after viewing the video in my homework post. Please note this opener has more questions on it than I would normally include, but I wanted to include one of each type of question I’m considering using for openers. So a typical opener might only have four of these types of questions, or might have two of one type and one of another, and often will combine several types in one problem, but this gives you an idea of the scope.

Here’s the key to those opener questions:

(R) = Review. This is just what it sounds like – review of a skill that they’ve theoretically already mastered. Designed to be short and quick.

(N) = New. This would be a concept that’s fairly new to them and that they probably have not mastered yet. In this example, it’s a problem of the type they saw in the video the night before.

(C) = CSAP. CSAP is our state-mandated testing that occurs in March each year. Since the 9th grade CSAP (most of my students will be 9th, a few might be 10th) covers some topics that are not in our Algebra curriculum, this is one way of addressing that.

(W) = Writing. Still thinking about how best to do writing (coming in a future post), but I’m thinking my openers will include some of these. This will often not be a separate category, but will be combined with others.

(V) = Vocabulary. I think vocabulary is important, but I’m not sure how to teach it well (especially with my limited class time with students). This is one attempt to address this.

(E ) = Estimating. I think this is a skill that we underestimate (pun intended) the importance of. I’m not sure how often I can fit this in, but I’m going to try.

(M) = Measurement. This is helpful not only in the obvious ways of actually being able to measure stuff, preparing them for Geometry in the following year, and preparing them for CSAP, but also because I think it’s critical in terms of their number sense and their ability to judge the reasonableness of real world answers.

(TFTD) = Thought for the Day. Just because I like it.
If you move past the first page of the PDF you’ll notice that each opener then gets its own page. My plan is that students will work the openers individually (in their notebooks), then will discuss them in their groups (modifying what they have in their notebooks if it needs revising after the discussion). Then I’ll ask a student to come up (representing their group) and work/explain the problem on the Smart Board (and students will modify their notebooks again if necessary). You’ll notice there’s a place on each opener for them to “sign” it – going for some ownership there (too hokey?). After different students have worked through all the openers for that day, I’ll PDF it and post it to our class website. (I thought about recording the students as well, but thought that was too much, too fast, and also added some technical complications that perhaps weren’t worth it.)

So, as with all of these posts, I’d love some feedback, ideas to make the openers better, or links to your already created openers that I can just “acquire.”

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Blogger concretekax said...

I use openers in my class and call them that too. One thing that we use in my school is "good news." It comes from a program called Capturing Kids Hearts found here http://www.flippengroup.com/education/ckh.html

What I do while they are doing there openers is pull pop sickle sticks with the students' names and they share something good that has happened recently. This allows me to get to know them and build relationships at the same time as they are working on their openers.

4/26/10 7:15 PM  
Blogger Cara S. said...

I like your switch from warm-ups to openers, especially if your class isn't first hour. I always feel like warm-up implies there wasn't much going on in the hours before...
Will you always label each question with the "type"? And will kids know what each letter means? I was just wondering...I think it would give them more ownership/responsibility if they knew what they were being asked to do, and it might help them understand why.
Oh, and I don't think that the signature is hokey...if you start the year placing value behind it, I think that they will buy in.

4/27/10 9:28 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Cara S. - Yes, my plan is to label each question with the type so that students know what they are doing, and hopefully we'll approach the "why" as well.

4/27/10 12:14 PM  

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Saturday, April 24, 2010

Transparent Algebra: My Concept List

Let's review:
Now we'll take a short break from the long and meaty posts and take a look at my draft concept list for Algebra. The idea behind the concept list is to not only identify the core concepts that students need to master in my course (not the nice to have ones, but the must have ones), but to identify the ones I'm going to assess and shoot for mastery on.

Like most teachers, I struggle with this because I want to include too many things. I'm pretty sure I have too many concepts on this list, yet I'm not sure I want to pare it down any more because I want my assessments to be frequent and targeted. If I whittle my list down too much, then that stretches the interval between assessments and invites the possibility of assessing on too big a skill range. I'm still pondering, though, which is why I'm hoping you'll take a look and give me some feedback. (And, again, this is just the skill part of my class, more in future posts about what else we will be doing during class.)

Some caveats to keep in mind:
  • I do have a curriculum I have to follow, and some students switch at semester, so the breakdown between the two semesters isn't negotiable.

  • The Algebra team I'm joining gives common final exams each semester, which means my end-of-semester summative exam is pre-determined.

  • We have our state-mandated testing (CSAP) in March, and the ninth grade CSAP includes some items that typically wouldn't be covered in Algebra (or at least not before March). So we teach Probability earlier in second semester than might be typical, and most teachers take at least a week or two to do some Geometry stuff before CSAPs.

  • All education is global, but it's also local. My class will meet four days a week for 59 minutes each class. I'll see them about 60 times first semester (with 5 of those shortened periods due to our PLC's), and about 65 times second semester (again, with 5 of those shortened). Compare that with David, who sees his classes five days a week for 94 minutes at a time and has them all year. Or with Matt, who sees his classes five days a week for 84 minutes a day. So we all have to adapt based on our specific circumstances, and that not only impacts instruction and assessment strategies, but also concept lists (mine is likely to be a little shorter than some other people's - well, at least when I get it narrowed down it will be).
So, I'd appreciate any feedback you have on the list (which is a published Google Doc that does change as I make changes, so you may see differences as I react to comments/suggestions).

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Blogger David Cox said...

I don't really have any suggestions for you. Looks like a good list to me. It seems like your skills are specific enough so that your assessments will tell you exactly what needs work and yet not too specific so as to create an unreasonable number of assessments.

The thing that is interesting to me is how algebra is different depending on the region. I didn't notice anything on your list pertaining to work, rate or mixture problems. Is that not covered in Algebra 1?

4/24/10 10:23 PM  
Blogger bratts said...

Your list is similar to many of the ideas in our Algebra I. We usually break up the semesters into a linear semester and a non-linear semester so the systems usually falls in the first semester. That is probably dependent on your teaching team though.

Your list is topic/concept based. It is a great start but what is it about each topic that you plan to assess? What is it about proportion and percent problems that you want students to be able to do or understand? I'm sure you know these things from your experiences but as an outsider it is difficult to know if your idea of mastery would be the same as mine. Do you have particular assessment questions in mind that if a student could do them that would indicate master?

These are the questions we are discussing right now in our district trying to have teachers align their expectations.

We address many of the typical algebra word problems in the unit with systems (mixture, rate). We usually don't go too far with Rational Expressions. Much depends on student success before that point.

4/25/10 6:12 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

David, I'm still diving into this, but my sense is that we don't do much with work, rate and mixture. My gut feeling is that's at least partially due to the time factor. We see our students for fewer days/minutes than many Algebra teachers do, and we devote a couple of weeks to Geometry concepts because of our state testing. But, to be clear, I'm still trying to figure this out, so I could be wrong about that.

brattsYeah, the concept list is the start. Once I'm fairly settled on that, then developing the assessments is one of my summer goals (in addition to the videos, and all the in-class stuff, and, oh yeah, my current full-time job).

4/25/10 8:37 AM  
Blogger kvanek said...

I don't teach algebra, but love it. However, my comments may not be valid. I'm just thinking of literacy connections and wondering how you will assess for algebra vocabulary which I see as critical to communicating about algebra concepts. Also, have you thought of using a discussion forum for students to discuss the various solutions they used to solve a given algebra problem giving credibility to the process as well as the final product?

4/25/10 11:27 AM  
Blogger thurj said...

Just a thought...You have 'lines of best fit' in your skills list. What is the skill you want them to take away from your class? Consider activities that get students to understand modeling linear relations. Most, if not all, of these activities can require the student to represent linear relations in tables, graphs, equations, and words. Inherent to these multiple representations, students are also learning about rates of change, solving equations, forms of equations, and a deeper understanding of functions. Along the way, simple skills, such as order of ops, are being reinforced though not directly.

4/28/10 8:14 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

thurj - Jon, thanks for chiming in. Yeah, I’m with you on the modeling, but the inclusion of line of best fit (and most of the others) was from working backwards from the common final exam the Algebra team has developed. I’m struggling with separating the bigger picture concept (like modeling) that I would like them to understand, from the very specific, very targeted skill (like finding a line of best fit) that I want to use for my assessments (and, of course, the final exam they’re going to see that’s not “mine.”)

Do you have suggestions of a way to structure this that meets both those needs?

4/28/10 9:12 AM  
Blogger thurj said...

...also, what thoughts (if any) do you have on integrating graphing calculators (student accessible technology).

4/28/10 9:13 AM  
Blogger thurj said...

In the way of structure...should we let the test govern the teaching, the teaching govern the test, or just teach. I understand what we are held accountable to, but there has to be a better way.

I offer no solutions! Incapability, thy name is Thurmond.

Being new to blog posts, how do I have a conversation? Should I keep posting comments?

4/28/10 9:20 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

Jon, my thoughts on graphing calculator technology are incomplete at the moment because it’s been too long since I’ve been in the classroom and I don’t know the current capabilities, the current norms, and the current availability. My preference would be to use netbooks, geogebra (which I don’t know how to use yet), and web apps, as I suspect that I’ll find graphing calculators too limiting. (But I also suspect I’ll find freely available apps too limiting as well, and, of course, I don’t have access to a class set of netbooks/laptops.) Wanna help me learn more about this? (Specifically, the capabilities of Nspire re: Algebra and what we have available at AHS - particularly first hour MWRF next year?)

I agree there’s a better way (have you read my blog before?). But I’m also sensitive to the fact that I’m joining a team and a process and that I only have one section of Algebra. I’m hesitant to suggest any kind of major change before I’ve even spent one day in an Algebra classroom this century. So I’m looking to try to bridge the skill-driven, curriculum-mandated, semester-divided existing framework with the concept-thinking-lifelong-learning-based class I’d like to teach. I want both, and I’m looking for help in how to do it.

You’re doing just fine with the comments, keep it up. The other option, of course, would be to start your own blog to continue the conversation there. We could also start a rogue PLC of interested math folks in our building if you want . . . (serious suggestion)

4/28/10 9:33 AM  

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Monday, April 19, 2010

Transparent Algebra: Homework

So, I’ve previously talked about going back in the classroom and about my initial thoughts on assessment (thanks for all the very helpful feedback), so in this post I’m going to talk about my plans for homework.

Homework is one of those crazy things that I’m completely for and completely against. (While that may sound a little nuts (or a lot nuts), I cling to this quote from F. Scott Fitzgerald: The sign of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in the mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.) On the one hand, I believe that students practicing their skills is helpful to their learning of Algebra. And, given the limited time I meet with my students, there’s the practical matter of fitting it all in. (As I noted in a comment on the assessment post, I’m estimating I’ll see my students for only about sixty periods – five of them shortened – in the fall semester.)

But on the other hand, I think homework is very problematic. I think the research is very mixed in terms of its effectiveness, and in my own experience I saw similar results. For a traditional homework assignment like I gave in my previous incarnation as a math teacher (perhaps 1-31 odd, or even a more thoughtfully picked selection of problems), I would typically see the following results:
A certain proportion of my class would be able to do all the homework with little or no problem. These were students that probably didn’t need the practice.

A second segment of my students wouldn’t even attempt the homework, for reasons ranging from they just didn’t want to, to not enough time, to not enough understanding. Some of these students still did well, others did miserably.

And the final group of my students in the middle would attempt the homework, but become very frustrated either because they couldn’t do it, or because they did it but did it incorrectly, so they effectively reinforced doing it wrong.
So one of the basic problems with homework (at least how I implemented it), was that the students too often weren’t reinforcing skills they already had, they were struggling with skills they had yet to master (at least for those last two groups). What they needed was to be able to work on those problems when I was available to help, or when others were available to help, but not on their own where if they were confused they just ended up frustrated or, worse, cementing incorrect procedures in their brains. (Note: I do think it’s a good thing for students to wrestle with complex problems, but I don’t feel like that was what was happening in my homework assignments.)

So my current thinking is to approach homework differently. I’m going to borrow an idea from a science teacher in my building, Brian Hatak (who, in turn, borrowed it from Jonathan Bergmann and Aaron Sams). My plan is to deliver the traditional lecture portion of an Algebra class as the homework, thus freeing up class time to explore the mathematics and pursue some interesting problems, as well as provide time for guided practice and collaborative work.

Since Algebra is very much skill based, my hope is to provide short (less than 10 minutes), targeted instructional videos that students can watch (and rewatch if necessary) that focus solely on the skills, one skill at a time. Now I want to be clear that these videos typically will come after inquiry and exploration in class. I want my students to, as much as possible, play with the mathematics and formulate their own approaches before seeing the formal procedure. (There will be times when I’m sure I won’t accomplish this inquiry first/video second plan, either due to time constraints or creativity constraints on my part, but I’m hopeful I’ll get better at this over time.) But if I’m going to provide the class time to do all that, then I still need them to have the opportunity to focus on the procedure and master the skill as well, which is where I’m hopeful the video will come in.

So, part of the feedback I’m asking for on this post is simply about that strategy. Is it a good one? Terribly flawed? Are there ways to improve it? But there’s a second reason for this post and it’s what I’m struggling the most with right now. Do I create these videos myself, or try to use resources that have already been created and are freely available online?

My initial thought (as you’ll see in a minute) was to create my own videos. That way I could make sure they were short - many of the resources online are much too long and teach more than one concept in a video, and part of my pitch to my students is going to be “give me 10 minutes.” My videos would also be targeted to the specific concepts that I want/need to convey at the time I want/need to convey them, and would fit in nicely with the rest of my course design. But as I discover more and more resources online, some of which have much higher production values than mine would, I wonder if it makes sense to make my own. (Especially when you figure in the considerable time investment necessary on my part – it takes much less time to build a set of links than to create my own videos, upload, and link.)

So, embedded below is a “proof of concept” video I created for solving two-step equations (view it full screen and HD, particularly if you’re close to my age or older). And here is a link to a video from the Monterey Institute for Technology and Education on essentially the same concept. (I haven’t looked carefully yet, but my guess is that they will have all or almost all of the concepts that I would create videos for as part of this series.) Should I create my own, or tap into theirs?

Before you watch my proof of concept video, let me briefly describe some of the thought process as I was creating it:
  • A reminder that this comes after exploration/inquiry in class and is intended to solidify the Algebra procedure. Students will also have ample opportunity in class to practice, with help from me and other students (more on that in a future post). By shifting the "lecture" to outside of class, it allows me to maximize the effectiveness of the time I'm face-to-face with students.

  • I was going for an “I do, we do, you do” approach in the video. That leaves off one step that I think is very important, “we do together,” but my hope is that is what will be happening in class.

  • My goal was to make the video no longer than necessary, yet still have it be absolutely clear (which, of course, allows me to be my naturally overly wordy self). I wanted to keep it under 10 minutes, both because that’s the YouTube limit and because I think any longer and I’m likely to lose them (or the concept is too complex to convey in a video like this).

  • I toyed with the idea of doing some post-recording enhancements in Camtasia (arrows, highlights, callouts, key words, etc.), but, at the moment, have decided against that both because it would add tremendously to my production time and because I’m not sure the enhancements wouldn’t end up being distracting instead of helpful. I also toyed with the idea of trying to make it more interactive, but eventually decided to keep it simple. It’s meant to be a resource, not the entire instructional plan.

  • On average, students will have about two videos per week, although that will vary. On nights when they don't have a video they will likely have something else to do, but it will not be a big 'ole long problem set like I used to give. Perhaps some reflection or other writing assignment, or a few targeted problems or inquiry, or simply study/work time for retakes of the assessments.
So, here's the embed. (Again, full screen and HD will look better.) If you watch the video (and I hope you do), please watch the entire video (8:15, I'm hoping many end up shorter than this one) so that you can see all five parts (Learning Goal, Explanation/Examples, Guided Practice, Self-Check, and Closing) and see how they work together (or not).



Let me anticipate three tech-related questions before they arise.
  • What if students don’t have net access at home? I’m in a school where almost all students do have access, and most of them broadband. I did a non-scientific, but presumably still reasonably valid survey of 332 students about a year ago, and 83% had broadband, 1% had dialup, 14% didn’t know the speed (so I’m thinking probably broadband or they would know), and 2% didn’t have Internet access at home. Even so, my plan is to call all of my students in June (once they’ve been scheduled into my class) and touch base with the parents to make sure they have access. If they do not, then we’ll change their schedule (plenty of other Algebra sections for them to be in without adversely affecting the rest of their schedule) and then move another student into my class (who I would then call and ask about access).

  • Isn’t YouTube blocked at your school? While I anticipate most students accessing this from home, I do want them to be able to access it at school during their unscheduled hours or before or after school. I picked YouTube because students are familiar with it and there are no upload or bandwidth limits, but it is problematic because YouTube is blocked at my school (although staff can override that block). Thankfully, my crackerjack IT staff at the district found a way to whitelist a specific channel on YouTube. While there are still some kinks to work out, students will be able to view these videos as long as I link to them within the channel. If they try to go directly to the video URL outside of the channel, they would be blocked (although they could get a staff member to override that if necessary).

  • What’s with the gold background? Our school colors are black and gold.
So, I’d love your thoughts on both the strategy and the implementation. Again, please keep in mind this is just one piece of the instructional puzzle, subsequent posts will focus more on what we do during class time.

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Blogger msufan said...

LOVE the concept. If you post your videos publicly, I could see them serving a wider audience than just your class, too. You'll be the algebra-specific version of Salman Khan (khanacademy.org). :-)

4/19/10 7:47 PM  
Blogger monika hardy said...

cool video Karl.

I use Jing to screen capture my 5 min or so lecture, that way those who are absent physically or just mentally can replay. Also those who need to see it slower or more than once can.

I also try to post along with the jing - 1-2 lessons on the same topic from different sources.. so that if my explanation doesn't set with them.. they hear it from others.
My kids' fav - Brightstorm. They do it very similar to your video.. and then student made tutorials.

I definitely agree with your thinking, and my kids are 100% on this as well. 5-10 min together talking time in class, then the rest is activity or problem solving.

Back to your video... and if you should keep it up or not... I'm currently reading Anya Kamenetz's DIY U - excellent read. (So far my fav is pp80-100 - catch a rough recap in my post if you don't have the book.)Page 84ish she references David Wiley's delight in seeing the scalability of a Javascript calculator - and how that should bring down cost and improve learning. Anya's talking higher ed - she writes, "Students spend $1000 a year on textbooks...and countless faculty hours go to preparing and updating course materials. Can universities realize the power of Wiley's insight...and use it to cut costs and raise the quality of their offerings?"

Jason Fried (Rework) says work is where we get the least done.

Maybe we get a ton done... but it's not the right stuff..
Reminds me of what generally is termed "homework."

I hope we can not only change up what we have been doing to kids in that vein - but also what we keep doing to ourselves.

4/20/10 1:30 AM  
OpenID michelleclarkepc said...

This is a fantastic video! I really love all parts of it, particularly the guided practice and the self-check practice parts. That is something I haven't seen in other tutorial videos.

As for the question of whether or not to create your own videos, after seeing this one, I'd say you definitely SHOULD create your own. I've done a lot of Math-topic searching online for resources (because I don't yet have the knowledge/resources/bright ideas like yours to do a better job for the time invested) and this is the first one I've seen where there are opportunities for interaction, not just passive viewing. It's up to the student to decide whether or not they WILL participate (for example I didn't actually pause the video myself to try the problems) but at least the opportunity is there! I really love that a lot.

Great job and I completely understand and share your perspective on homework!

4/20/10 10:10 AM  
Blogger Jackie said...

There are some fantastic ideas here, way to think outside the box and be there for your students when they need you- when practicing the concept you are teaching.

4/20/10 10:14 AM  
Blogger David Cox said...

Karl
I love what you're attempting to do here. Inversion of the traditional lecture is one of my goals as well. I started by capturing my examples during class and posting them here. It's not as organized as I'd like, but it's a work in progress. I think future mathcasts will include the guided practice as well as self check. Thanks for providing a great example of that.

I think you should definitely do the videos yourself (provided you have time) because you may emphasize things a little differently and you have complete control on the problem sets students do. You may want to link to these other resources so students have access to others, though.

4/20/10 10:41 AM  
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4/20/10 12:01 PM  
Blogger Dave said...

I really like this idea and have been pondering it for a long time. I guess the only thing that's been holding me back is that creating videos is time consuming.

I agree with your comments about homework. This shift could really help keep more students engaged.

4/20/10 12:58 PM  
Blogger Steve J. Moore said...

I love the idea of switching the homework and lecture around to provide better support using the time you have with students. The video is great too.

I wonder, do you still do lectures in class as well? How supplementary are the videos?

Great post!

4/20/10 2:26 PM  
Blogger Joya said...

Brilliant solution, definitely an improvement on the current model!

I think you're on to something here and I want to hear and see more. What we need is a comprehensive overhaul of the entire educational system. Your ideas make sense and are generally more compassionate. In your system, most students will do better and feel better about the learning process when given more support in the classroom....

Your algebra video was clear and taught me something I didn't know about solving equations (the part about doing the inverse of the order of operations), even though I guess I have been doing it intuitively that way. But putting it in words and saying it grounds the information which helps students learn the process. I teach math and all the other subjects for the GED test. I look forward to your further ideas and examples. Thanks so much.

4/20/10 2:53 PM  
Blogger rlodan01 said...

Carl, I'm in love with this idea. I've been contemplating going back into the classroom as well and have been contemplating many of the same ideas. I truly believe your approach is on track.

However, I want to encourage you to expand how you develop your videos. I think there is enough research to indicate that students create more flexible schema when they have multiple representations involved in their understandings.

I don't have videos developed at this point to reinforce my idea, but I have done a couple of PowerPoints that model this. This link is to a PP for algebra tiles that http://hybridalgebra.wikispaces.com/file/view/Algebra%20Tiles%20PP%20-%20version%202.ppt On slide 42 there is an example of what multiple representations for solving an equation might look like (I'm not totally advocating for algebra tiles but for the concept of multiple representations- models/symbolic/written).

The reason I push you to think about this approach is so that students can bring something to the table depending on their understanding. I think in terms of this approach it might mean fewer examples and more of a focus on being able to discuss 2-3 examples really well. i definitely agree with keeping the time down to 5-9 minutes MAX. It is hard for students to process that much information well.

The second issue that I encourage you to consider is some type of video viewing guide (I'm involved in a hybrid algebra research project and we call the viewing guides, tracking tools). Provide the students with some type of graphic organizer that they can use to learn how to learn independently. The idea you are proposing is incredibly radical and the students will have NO understanding of the concept of viewing a video and bringing something to the discussion the next day. It's an issue we've been dealing with for a couple of years and I think I can safely say that you need to provide your students some simple guiding questions/prompts that allow them to organize their thinking. I am again going to point you to a link to an example (I'm not professing that it's a great example, it's just my thinking) http://hybridalgebra.wikispaces.com/file/view/KVHS%20Lesson%2010_2%20Practice%20Finding%20Solutions%20to%20an%20Equation%20-%20Sarah%20Moon.doc
it is associated with the lesson from hippocampus- http://www.hippocampus.org/hippocampus.php/course_locator.php?skinPath=http://www.hippocampus.org/hippocampus.skins/default&course=Algebra%20IA&lesson=10&topic=2&topicTitle=Solutions%20to%20an%20equation. Again, the important concept here (in my opinion) is to provide a process that students can use to extract information from the videos and that you can use to start the conversation the next day. I would gradually move from a this more scaffolded guide to a simple double entry organizer approach with a very intentional summary/synthesis routine in the classroom (I'm a HUGE believer in metacognition).

This post is getting pretty long and I'm going to kind of cut it off. I don't want to be preachy, because I really love the ideas you are proposing. I agree totally with your evaluation of homework and students who do homework (in fact I've used almost that exact same description with teachers I work with). I wish I was in your math class next year!! Thanks for sharing.

4/20/10 6:58 PM  
Blogger RichTCS said...

Karl:

I really love your ideas (and not just because I've been thinking along rather similar lines in just the past week, for next year's classes). In my classroom, I've got a Smart Board so my thinking before now has been about how to best integrate that into an online video. I see little value in anyone seeing my face on a video, so I think that a traditional camera setup is my least favorite choice -- so something to capture and put together video (like Camtasia) is more along with what I'm thinking.

I have a few detailed questions:
* What software are you using to create your slides?
* What mic are you using?
* What's a ballpark estimate for how long it took you to prepare, record, and post-process your trial video?


Thanks for your insight and transparency as you prepare for the coming year!

4/20/10 7:58 PM  
Blogger Benjamin said...

Hi Karl,

Great post and I like how you are approaching your classroom instruction in a different manner the second time around. It will yield better thinkers while providing tools to be successful on standardized tests, necessary component in states like Massachusetts.

Pros
*Students will connect to you as their teacher and provider of video content. This should help keep the classroom transitions smooth.
*Account of who watched the video
*Reassign specific videos to be watched for students who are falling behind

Cons
*Only one solution algorithm provided.
*Monterey offered support text. It helped solidify math terminology and put a name to their steps and processes.

4/21/10 5:56 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@msufan – Thanks. Yes, the videos would be public, for whatever that’s worth.

@monika hardy – Yeah, I was thinking of linking to additional resources, similar to what we’ve built here, just need to find the time.

@michelleclarkepc – Thanks. I actually had some debates with myself about whether the video was interactive enough. I finally decided in the end that my basic premise with this is that I’m shifting the lecture to outside of class and most of the practice (and hopefully inquiry and fun stuff) to inside of class. Part of the “spin” for that is – you watch a video of no more than 10 minutes, including working 2 to 3 problems on your own that I then show you the answer for, but then you’re done. If I tried to add some interactivity to it, that defeats both the purpose of keeping this short and the idea that I don’t want them getting frustrated trying to practice too much when I’m not there to help. Having said that, I still might change my mind.

@David Cox – Thanks. I looked briefly at yours after our assessment discussion and hope to find time to return to them and steal, ummm, build upon your work.

@Steve J. Moore – Well, in case it’s not obvious, I’m still trying to figure out exactly what I’m going to do in class (blog posts coming soon with my ideas). My intention at the moment is that this mostly takes the place of lectures in class. Class will be a combination of a lot of things, including inquiry, exploration, group work and certainly some direct examples/instruction from me, but my hope is that these videos will serve as the primary “delivery” of information in a lecture format. We’ll see.

@rlodan01 – Thanks for the feedback. See my comment to michelleclarekpc above in terms of why I decided to try to keep the videos as simple as possible. My plan is to do the multiple representation type stuff in class – when I have them face-to-face, with the video really just reinforcing the more traditional algorithm and the thought process they should go through. (Again, most of the time at least, the video will be after the exploration which would include the multiple representations when appropriate.)

As far as the viewing guide, I’m not sure I’m ready to go quite that far. For the same reason of trying to keep it simple and short for students, and because I’m worried I already bit off more than I can chew for next year. I do plan to spend time at the beginning of the year stepping them through how to use the videos, and I certainly will also meet with individual students if they are having trouble. I’ll be providing them formatting/graphic organizer type information for what they put in their notebooks (recall the self-check part at the end of the video - they will be working those out in their notebooks, and perhaps additional notes prior to that in the video, still thinking about that). If my videos have a fairly consistent format (which is my plan), then they should hopefully have the strategies pretty much up front that will serve them well all year. Having said all that, I’ll certainly check out your links and see what I can “borrow.”

@Benjamin – Thanks for the Pros and Cons, those help a lot to clarify the strengths and weaknesses. The “supported text” of the Monterey is the part that made me question doing this myself. I could go for that as well in my videos, but as I said in the post, that would increase my production time considerably and I’m just not sure I can pull it off. My hope is that my “supporting text” in some sense will be all the work we do in class. Still pondering.

4/21/10 9:19 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@RichTCS – Yeah, I decided that seeing me added little value and more production complexity (not to mention the remixes they would come up with!). Let me try to briefly (difficult for me) answer your questions.

1. I ended up using the Smart Notebook software to create the slides (with the additional Smart Math software to create more complicated expressions). It has some disadvantages, but I decided to go with it for two main reasons. First, it appears as though I’ll be in a classroom with a Smart Board and so would be using it in class, therefore I wanted the students to get a consistent experience. Second, I’m anticipating some videos where it will be really helpful to be able to record my writing (this one was all composed at a computer) – think graphing and some other stuff – so that’s best accomplished on the Smart Board itself in the Smart Notebook software. (And, because my design sensibility/skills are not good and are not likely to improve much, some of the disadvantages of the Smart Notebook software perhaps don’t apply to me as much as they would to somebody with “skillz”.) I used Camtasia to do the recording because it provides me with more options, but you could also use something like Jing or the Smart Recorder software (which I’m told is a stripped down version of Camtasia – I’m hopeful that perhaps they’ll improve that in future releases of Smart Notebook).

2. I used a Logitech USB headset for the microphone. It works well, but I need to play a little bit to see if I can remove the clicking noise when I advance slides.

3. As far as how long it took, this first one took an incredible amount of time, but that was mainly because I was trying and discarding different things, learning the Smart Notebook software, Camtasia, settings for YouTube, playing with what I wanted to include, etc. I’m guessing probably about 15 hours for this one (which is a little sad when you look at the result). I anticipate now that I’ve gone through that process that future videos will take much less time. (Well, it’s been a little bit, so the first couple will probably take longer until I get back into it).

I’m hopeful that I can create a video on a particular concept, from start to posted on YouTube, in perhaps 90 minutes. I imagine others could do it faster, but I’m a little bit of a perfectionist. And, because it’s been so long since I’ve taught Algebra, it’s probably taking me longer to do this as I not only try to figure out what the key points are, but also try to anticipate where students struggle. For a teacher that’s currently teaching Algebra, that would go much faster than it will for me.

4/21/10 9:19 AM  
Blogger Melinda Waffle said...

This has been a concept I've been struggling with/playing with during the last 2 years. (While I'm still out of the classroom in my "day" job doing technology integration, I took up teaching Algebra at our local community college which has a faster pace than high school...for students that failed it in high school, ironically.)

I love the video concept. I've created a few of my own, though time has prevented me from making the numbers I would like. Our state is involved in a K-12 iTunes U project, so I decided to go that route. This has eliminated some of the issues of no internet at home as students can download the files to their laptops (or mp3 players, smartphones, etc) to have them available offline. I wish I had more time to devote to making many more, but just have to accept it as a work in progress and know it will take years to make all the ones I would like to have.

I agree with you on the video length, though sometimes I found even 7 minutes to be too long. I know that some of the teachers that are using my videos like the 3-4 minutes ones best, and they supplement with a document (some electronic, some handout) to reach more learning styles.

I feel the same way you do about homework, especially in mathematics where skill building and concept building often have to develop at the same time. One solution I have found to be successful is a better use of a quiz. Instead of giving them at the beginning of class, I give them at the end of class and grade them on the spot to check for some of the basic skills needed for the lesson. Then students' homework is determined by their quiz; if they miss problem #1, they need to do problems 1-8 on page ###, and so on. It has been a great way for me to build remediation into the course, and not punish students that do not need the extra practice with hours of homework. Unexpectedly, it also provides me with great feedback on when I need to revisit a topic. :-)

4/21/10 10:17 AM  
Blogger Dr. Regina Parsons said...

I have been running my Algebra II course this way all year. I give the introduction to the students via video (which also contains practice problems that I guide them through) as homework. I also assign some basic problems from the book so that the kids can further their understanding of the concept. The positives here far outweigh the negatives. The only negative that I've heard is that the students don't get to ask questions while watching the video. They do, however, get to pause and/or go back to review an explanation. The downside of not getting to ask questions, as conveyed to me by them, actually has an upside to it: they come to class the next day knowing exactly what their questions are. Another positive is that the students who pick up the ideas more quickly love not being held back by those who take longer to absorb the material.

I begin the class after the students watch the video by giving a sample problem to make sure that they got everything from the video that they were supposed to. I then start a discussion about the rationale of what was covered in the video (including any relevant proofs). We then work on tons of great problems. I have plenty of time to work one-on-one when necessary. The kids really like having all of this time in class to work on problems together.

4/21/10 2:43 PM  
Blogger lifewithl said...

Karl,
I am completely fascinated with your thoughtful reflections. I can hear the excitement in your voice. Your video is very clear and I too love that the students can review or replay to gain a better understanding. I wonder if you could transition into having the students create a video to demonstrate understanding? Maybe that's a bit ambitious, but might be a fun summative assignment.

4/21/10 7:12 PM  
Blogger Clint H said...

Hi Karl,

This is an idea that I, too, have toyed around with. Assuming that all students have equal access to the materials, I do not see a downside at all, other than overcoming other people's perceptions of what education and school should look like.

A note about production: As an ongoing algebraic review, we have instituted an 'Algebra on Demand' unit, predicated on Dan Meyer's skills-based assessment idea. To facilitate this, we've created a series of short videos - 2 to 4 minutes (remember, this is review and not their first contact with the material) - that we host on our school portal. To make the videos, we use our TabletPCs, OneNote and Cam Studio. It is just like delivering your lesson on a whiteboard and takes just as much time. If you don't have a TabletPC, you can probably use one of the WACOM Bamboo tablets.

4/21/10 9:19 PM  
Blogger Saraswati said...

Love the idea, Karl. I think I would've actually developed a talent in math if I'd been taught this way. I'm enjoying the "class discussion" before hand - an experimental environment rather than an "if you don't get this right, you're a fool" one.

4/21/10 10:51 PM  
Blogger Clint H said...

Karl, I got to thinking about your idea. I wonder if we could crowd-source the videos and build a collective online Algebra 1 video textbook?

4/22/10 12:33 AM  
Blogger Peach Pod said...

I think it is a great idea. I'm jealous that you can implement something like this. As a teacher that has a population with more than 70% free lunch, this isn't feasible for me. You might want to consider building a calendar into your website and create a link to each video. That makes it easy for students who miss a day to make up work and gives them an easy place to go for review materials. Just a thought!

4/23/10 1:18 PM  
Blogger C. Makovsky said...

I admire your transparency, Karl. The video was very clear and succinct. I can't wait to see the constructivist ideas that you'll bring into your classroom now that you've eliminated the need to lecture. In theory, you have opened up more time for student-centered learning.

I'll be retired next year, but I plan to keep reading your blog!

4/23/10 4:11 PM  
Blogger Almost American said...

I'm not a math teacher, but I think this sounds great! I recently discovered khanacademy.org that msufan mentioned, and my own kids have been loving it. If the khanacademy videos suit your purpose it could save you a lot of time! They could at least be an additional resource for your students. (Sometimes it's good to hear a different teacher explain the same concept.)

4/24/10 7:00 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@lifewithl – Yes, I’m considering having students create some explanation mathcasts at some point. I think I need my own as well, though.

@Clint H – Thanks for the link to your videos and the blog post. Yes, I think we probably could, but I wonder how hard it would be to agree on everything from the content to the length to the style to the explanations.

@C. Makovsky – Thanks for the support – and the continued reading.

4/24/10 8:35 PM  
Blogger Karen Janowski said...

Karl,
Have to admit I didn't watch the entire video but you may want to consider the use of the Pulse Smartpen By Livescribe. It creates an audio and video recording of your work in a notebook that is then easily uploaded and shared with your students. easy and another possibility when you don't have much time.
I asked my own kids math teachers to do something similar using the Smart Recorder but they refused. Unfortunately my kids told me they understood the math concepts at school but didn't get it at home. I had no way to help them.
Your thinking helps kids learn by empowering them. They can watch the video as often as necessary to understand the instruction.
Keep us informed next year.

4/25/10 9:30 AM  
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6/10/10 9:41 AM  
Blogger sharon said...

Learning is always fun if taken in the right spirit. I think online tutors are best persons to guide students doing their studies. They provide 1-to-1 tutoring to the students. There are several websites available to help students learning math. I personally like Tutorteddy.com. My daughter uses it; she is in 8th grade and has improved a lot after she has started taking online math tutoring from this site.

7/5/10 11:41 PM  
Blogger Jonathan Bergmann said...

Karl: the post production does take a lot of time, but our studetns really like the callouts and such. We asked and they really like them.

7/12/10 8:38 PM  
Blogger Jonathan Bergmann said...

Karl: the post production does take a lot of time, but our studetns really like the callouts and such. We asked and they really like them.

7/12/10 8:38 PM  
Blogger Mike Gwaltney said...

Genius stuff in this blog post. The value of the teacher is his/her understanding of the content, and working with the students while they attempt to solve problems is when understanding is needed most. In an information age, access to "how to" do something is easy to get. Assistance while doing it is what we all pay for, and that should be the job of the teacher.

One more thing. Because the goal of an education must be to improve thinking and problem-solving skills (hmm, some may disagree here), having a master problem-solver to work with as a mentor is invaluable. People like you are modeling the kind of habits of mind we need our young people to master. Good stuff.

9/22/10 1:58 PM  
Blogger peter Stafford said...

Great idea. Here's a twist. Get with the drama club or something and have kids do the lessons. Video them at the board. I like lectures - MIT has some great ones - but I like a real person doing them (that s just me)- yours is great, but it is a bit power-pointy.

9/25/10 7:00 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

Peter Stafford - I think getting kids involved is a great idea, and something we've toyed with in some of our science classes.

But, for what I'm trying to do with these in my class, I was shooting for really straightforward presentation. I didn't even do any post-production because I didn't want to overwhelm them with too much information. The idea is for them just to focus on the one skill, and then the more interesting stuff happens in class. Theoretically.

9/30/10 1:04 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Karl,

I'm interested in trying this at the university level for principles of econ. I don't really see it as feasible to engage with questions first then have the students watch a video, because so much of economics at that level is learning definitions (like biology).

Did you stick with engage-first, video-second when you implemented this? Do you have a follow-up post?

4/7/11 2:27 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

Jeff - I did stick with that plan. It's worked okay, but not as well as I would've liked. A lot of that has to do with a few students not watching consistently (always an issue), my teaching being rusty (14 or so years since I've taught Algebra), and - as always - not having enough time to do it right.

In terms of economics, is there any way to perhaps have two types of videos - one with the definitions but a second type that is maybe more exploratory? Something that gets them thinking about a situation? I'm not terribly knowledgeable in this area, but I was thinking along the lines of scenarios laid out in things like Freakonomics or Predictably Irrational, or something else that tells a story to get them hooked and thinking.

4/7/11 2:50 PM  
Blogger Jeff said...

Karl: Thanks for the followup and feedback. I currently have a very hard time getting students to memorize vocabulary words despite the fact that they have a weekly quiz on definitions. When teaching principles again, I will most likely do away with these quizzes and instead give weekly chapter tests. This is only feasible, time-wise, if I tape my lectures and devote class time to tutoring, so I'll probably try that.

Like others, I recognize the power of a well-done presentation, but bemoan the fact that principles of economics, like chemistry, is best taught textually. The charts and graphs are nice, yes, but when it comes down to it, students need exposure to the definitions and core concepts, which they don't seem to be getting on their own.

Books like the ones you mention are part of the reason I chose to become an economist. I "get it" on a level that most principles students will not, in that I am able to take chalkboard equations and generalize to everyday situations. I see it as a challenge to get the marginal students interested in the way that I am.

A telling bit of evidence: my courses are highly rated among advanced graduate students, but I expect low ratings from my principles class. Am I a bad teacher on Wednesdays, and excellent otherwise? I doubt it. I just need to figure out how to present the material. At the very least, my method is the only thing I have under my control, so that's where I'll start.

Thanks for allowing me to think out loud. I look forward to reading more of your blog.

4/25/11 9:45 PM  
Blogger leslie.williams said...

Karl,
I'm enjoying watching your trials with different approaches to teaching. Currently I make my own videos and have students in my 7th grade Pre-Algebra class watch the videos at home, complete 5 -10 problems, and work on problems during class. I am still getting used to this new way of teaching and it is a big transition. For me, I prefer a very interactive lesson both as a teacher and learner. However, I do see the upside to the inverted classroom model, and I do spend time interacting with the class as a whole reviewing the concepts at the beginning of the class. I currently teach harder concepts during class and use the inverted model for easier concepts. Going between models actually slows the class down. I have asked the kids verbally if they prefer me teaching or watching the videos at home and about 40% prefer teaching, 30% prefer videos and the rest could go either way. I'm going to give them a survey with more detailed questions about how they would like the videos to be incorporated into their learning (for reviewing concepts, learning concepts, mixed with classroom teaching). I also agree to make your own videos. As much as I like khanacademy, it just doesn't fit my curriculum (I'm at a private school). I also am trying to figure out how to ensure students are watching the videoss. Currently, they have the follow up problems and I call on them randomly during class the next day. I have had some suggestions like having them blog about a conceptual idea that was in the video, but not giving them the prompt until after they watch the video or before if they have to watch the video to get the entire concept. Of course, time management and organization are my biggest issues getting used to this new way of teaching, finding ways to incorporate it that I can manage. Thanks for your blogging and I look forward to hearing more of your experience. -Leslie F. at Cary Academy, NC

9/29/11 7:46 AM  

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AWNM: Year 3

Once again this year our students in Anne Smith and Maura Moritz's English 9 Honors classes will be reading Daniel Pink's A Whole New Mind and discussing it with each other, with many of you, and with Daniel Pink himself (read about previous years' experiences). Students will be holding in-class fishbowl discussions and live blogging chapters four through nine (Design, Story, Sympathy, Empathy and Meaning).

We again have a bunch of folks from our PLN's that will be live blogging with them, and Daniel Pink will be Skyping with them to discuss Chapter 6: Symphony. (Unfortunately due to our schedules not synching very well this year, we'll only get Mr. Pink once this year instead of twice. The good news is that he'll be discussing Symphony this time which is a chapter that we haven't been able to discuss with him before.)

You're welcome to check out the wiki to see when we'll be live blogging, and then tune in to the ustream of the in-class discussion and/or the CoverItLive live blogging on Anne's class blog (periods 2 and 5 on that schedule) or Maura's class blog (periods 3 and 4 on that schedule). We're looking forward to another great learning experience for - and with - our students.

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Friday, April 16, 2010

Transparent Algebra: Assessment

As I noted previously, I’m going to be doing a series of posts sharing my thinking about my Algebra class for next year and soliciting feedback and ideas from my network. First up: assessment. (Note: I’m not quite ready to reach Dan Meyer’s level of magnificence in terms of assessment – this and this are well worth your time – but his ideas very much influenced my current plan.)

I’m starting with assessment for several reasons. First, I’ve always liked the idea of “begin with the end in mind,” so focusing on what I’d like the outcomes to be and working backwards seems to make sense. Second, in this accountability-obsessed time, assessment is a pretty important topic that I not only need to get right for the accountability folks, but most importantly for my students. And finally, I think it makes sense to start with assessment because if you guys give me some ideas that make me radically rethink this, it would be better to do that up front instead of after working through all my other ideas.

So, what are my goals for this class? Well, there are a bunch, but let me try to narrow them down to the most essential ones.
Content Goal: Learn the Algebra skills.
Habits of Mind Goal: Become better problem solvers by getting better at asking good questions, thinking mathematically and reasoning mathematically.

Collaborative Goal: Become better at working together to achieve a common objective.

Metacognitive Goal: Learn more about themselves as a learner (via conversation and reflection) and use that to become better learners.
The first goal is obviously much easier to assess than the other three, so I’m mostly going to focus on that one in this post. But if you have ideas on some more formal ways to assess the Habits of Mind, Collaborative, and Metacognitive goals, I’d love to hear them. (I have some teaching techniques and activities in mind to try to foster those three goals, but am not real clear on a good way to assess how well we’ve done.)

From my previous incarnation as a math teacher I remember being frustrated with my assessments. (Actually, I think I probably didn’t think too deeply about my assessments, but I was frustrated with how well my students did - that’s obviously a critical distinction and I hope to be a better teacher this time.) Students in Algebra often struggle because they accumulate both an understanding and a skill deficit – they only partially understand concepts and they only become partially proficient at skills and, eventually, they sink.

My previous assessment strategy didn’t do much to alleviate that, as their deficits were often masked by “just good enough” performance (as reflected in their overall grade) that made it appear as though they didn’t really need much intervention. So I’m hoping to implement a better system of formative assessment this time that will allow me – and my students – to stay on top of things better. I’m currently planning on having three categories in my gradebook (I’m not a huge fan of grades, but that’s a topic for another post): Preparation (10%), Formative Assessment (70%) and Summative Assessment (20% plus - more on the “plus” in a moment).

Preparation (10%)
I’ve spent a lot of time struggling with this one. In general, I agree with the thinking that the practice and responsibility parts of being a good learner shouldn’t have much effect on their overall grade. “Being a good kid” is something I respect and want to promote, but it shouldn’t be reflected in their grade for Algebra. Since it says Algebra on the transcript, the grade should be a reflection of how well they know and can do Algebra.

On the other hand, I do want to encourage students to practice (because it will help them learn), and be responsible, and generally be a good kid. And I realize that their previous (and often their concurrent) experience often includes this piece as a big part of their grade. So my compromise is to include this as a small part of their grade. It will be comprised of a combination of homework, warm-ups, and other in-class activities. (Much more on homework in my next post but, for now, suffice it to say that it won’t be 1-31 odd.)

Formative Assessment (70%)
This is the heart and soul of my assessment strategy and the part that I’d really like some constructive feedback on. While previously I relied heavily on chapter tests, this time I want my formative assessment to be much more, well, formative. As such, I want it to be more frequent, more targeted, and have a built-in process to try to give students a better opportunity to master the skills in a timely manner so they don’t accumulate those deficits I mentioned before.

Algebra is very much skill-based (although there is certainly a bigger-picture mathematical thinking/pattern recognition piece as well). As I talked about in my previous post, my class will meet four days a week (MWRF) for 59 minutes at a time, so my plan is to give formative assessments roughly once a week (although that will vary a little bit with the calendar, the particular Algebra concepts, and other happenings at school). These will be short, targeted assessments of six questions, covering only three concepts, with each concept having one relatively easy and one relatively more difficult question. The assessment would then get entered into the gradebook by concept (so three grades for each assessment). This should help both me and my students identify what they understand and what they need to spend some additional time on.

After the students turn in their assessment, I’ll have students come up to the board and immediately work through the questions. This will then be captured (it looks like I’ll be in a room with a Smart Board) and posted to the class website (mostly likely run through a blog, but I’m still thinking about that). Students should therefore have a pretty good idea right away about how they did, but I’ll also grade these assessments and get them into our student information system no later than that afternoon. I’ll not only record their grade, but will also use the comment feature to indicate which problems they missed on each concept. When students login they’ll therefore be able to see which concepts they need to work on and they’ll be able to refer to the actual assessment – and worked out solutions – from the class website.

If a student doesn’t show proficiency on a concept by getting both questions right they will then have the opportunity to retry the assessment (a different version) once each day until the next assessment. They will only have to retake the portion of the assessment that they didn’t get correct the first time. In other words, if they get both problems on a particular concept correct the first time, they won’t have to retake that part.

They will have the opportunity to review on their own and/or get help from me, other math teachers, or peer tutors, and then typically have up to four retakes before the next assessment rolls around. The strategy is that this is providing students an incentive to become proficient on those skills in a very timely manner, before those deficits start impeding their learning on future skills. Their new score (assuming it’s higher) will go in the gradebook and the comments will then change to indicate any problems they missed on the concept on this assessment.

I’ve struggled with the idea of only allowing those retakes until the next assessment (about a week). Philosophically I would like to allow them to continue to try after that if they need to, but practically I don’t think I can make it work. First there’s the simple management aspect of it, but there’s also the concern that if I extend that indefinitely, that invites procrastination which defeats the purpose of eliminating the understanding and skill deficits in a timely manner.

Summative Assessment (20% plus)
We give final exams each semester at my school, with each final lasting for 85 minutes, and the final is typically about 20% of the overall grade. The Algebra team that I’m joining gives a common final assessment each semester, so I will be giving that as well. This is a summative assessment that gives students a chance to demonstrate what they know and are able to do, and hopefully gives them a chance to coalesce their knowledge and make it more permanent (that’s the theory, at least).

I will make my summative assessment worth 20% of their overall grade as well, unless their performance on the final exceeds their existing grade, in which case the final will be worth 100%. In other words, if they can demonstrate they know more Algebra on the final then what their previous grade indicated, then I’m going with what they can demonstrate. In the long run, I’m not that interested in how much Algebra they knew in October or March, I’m interested in how much Algebra they know when they (tearfully) leave my class.

So there you have it. I have made some compromises due to the fact that I’m teaching just one section of Algebra instead of being a full-time math teacher, but I think it’s a decent start on a good assessment strategy that is actually doable given my other job responsibilities. Keeping in mind that limitation (excuse?), I’d love some constructive feedback.

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Blogger monika hardy said...

Looks good Karl. I esp like the summative's ability to wipe out the others... and I'm intrigued to hear how the going to the board after turns out.. maybe you could flip video some of those for posts..

The formative sounds very similar to what Dan Meyer has developed with the grade per topic and 4 or so chances for a do-over. I really like that.

What we tried this year - and what I would like more feedback on - is teaching the kids to grade their own tests. Sounds ridiculous and simple and perhaps trite at first. But for us, turned into a difficult yet extremely rewarding feat. It came about from the thinking of kids owning their own learning - and the need for them to self-assess. Ended with them having a much better understanding of how to present themselves.. and their feedback gave me a better understanding how to improve my test writing.

Looking forward to the comments that follow. I feel we have botched the assessment piece of learning terribly. Typically kids think of them as a tool to tell them if they are good or bad, and then they are trashed.

4/17/10 6:25 AM  
Blogger Jenny said...

There are a couple of professors out of Cornell who have been doing a lot of work with thinking skills. http://www.thinkandthrive.com/tw/
When you consider how to assess the metacognitive piece their work might be worth considering. They have a youtube channel that might be helpful to: http://www.youtube.com/user/cogitoergovigeo

Our district (at least parts of it) has done a lot of work with them. In our creation of a new progress report for K-6 the thinking skills were included. Sadly, our leadership has changed and those are now gone from the report. But a lot of us had done some serious thinking and working together on how to assess thinking skills. It was time well spent.

4/17/10 6:58 AM  
Blogger Mike Porter said...

Karl--

I like the balance of scoring categories, and the inclusion of the preparation component, noting your comments. Especially for 9th graders, it's not a bad idea to make being a responsible, prepared learner an accountable item.

I'm thinking about a content area writing section to your gradebook for a couple of reasons. It supports building/district goals, it could be an indicator to your class collaboration and metacognition goals,and will, at least in the students' minds, validate the blogging that I anticipate they'll be doing.

Also, I think that you are such a good writer yourself, you'll do a fine job sharing that with your students.

Mike

4/17/10 8:08 AM  
Blogger Michelle Herring said...

Our building policy for assessment is summative 80%/formative 20%, and as I read your descriptions I am thinking about ours...we have described formative as practice, homework, classwork, warm-ups etc. similar to your "preparation" and the summative as the the end of the learning assessments for each concept, similar to your "formative". Our semester grade is then comprised of 45% marking period 1, 45% marking period 2 and 10% exam. The exam is truly the very end of the learning, so is that the only real "summative" assessment?
The question I have is, does what we label these categories really matter or is it just semantics? Is your formative category the same as our summative category? Is this ok or is it confusing and further muddy the waters of assessment and grading practices? Just thoughts I have in my head...

4/17/10 9:22 AM  
Blogger RichTCS said...

Karl, I like your thoughts about assessment (as I'm an Algebra teacher also). What do you think of Dan Meyer's idea of checking on the same concept twice? If I recall, the first time a student encounters a particular concept on a quiz, it's worth up to 4 points and the next time, it's worth 5, under Dan's arrangement.

4/17/10 11:09 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@monika hardy – Thanks. I thought about having students formally self-assess and, in the end, decided I didn’t know how to do it well and I wanted to make sure I was in the loop so that I could help more. I am planning on having them self-reflect and self-assess fairly often, just not on the formal assessments. Perhaps I can grow into more self-assessing if I continue to have Algebra sections after this year.

@Jenny – Thanks for the links – I’ll check them out. Sorry to hear about the effect the leadership change had, but hopefully the work has helped your team with their teaching.

@Mike Porter – I thought about including writing as a separate piece but decided I just wasn’t good enough to figure out how to do it well. Similar to my comments to monika above, perhaps I can grow into that in subsequent years. At the moment, I’m not sure blogging is going to be a big part of what I do (at least not this year). More on this in a future post, but I’m going to be using Google Apps for some reflective pieces and that will be included in the Preparation category.

@Michelle Herring – I’m not sure the labels matter that much as long as we’re doing things that help our students (although it’s helpful for us to have a common vocabulary to talk about it). For me, I think of these assessments along the way as formative because it helps me and the student identify what they need to work on, and then hopefully they work on it. The final is the only summative exam in my mind because it’s at the end (the “autopsy”), and there’s no particular intervention associated with it (at least not in my class, although theoretically there could be intervention in the next class).

@RichTCS – I love what Dan Meyer is doing, I just don’t think I can pull it off this year for two reasons. One, my already stated excuse of only teaching one section and having another full-time responsibility. Two, because I just don’t think I’m good enough yet to do it as well as he does. Perhaps after this year, with a year back in the Algebra classroom, I may be back in the swing enough that I can try to take it to the next level (which is what I feel Dan has done).

4/17/10 3:22 PM  
Blogger Matt Townsley said...

Hi Karl. I, too, have read a lot of Dan Meyer's blog and have created a system somewhat similar to his for my high school math students. I think your assessment scheme is on the right track. It may be semantics, but I'm not sure your "formative" assessments are really "formative."

What type of feedback will you be giving students in between your instruction and these "formative" skill-based quizzes? I'm wondering if the in between opportunities might actually be the "formative" assessments while the skills-based quizzes are just repeated summative assessments. Again, it may just be semantics. Kudos to you for your transparency.

I wrote up a post and left myself open for some criticism, too: http://bit.ly/bi16nQ

4/17/10 8:06 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Matt Townsley - Yeah, I worry about that as well. The feedback part happens when the kids come in and get that help (before/after school, during their unscheduled hours, or even on their own if they're up to doing that), but it's certainly not as good as I would like to get it.

I guess I still think of the quizzes as "formative" because it allows us to diagnose what they don't understand and then respond to it, as opposed to "summative" which doesn't allow for that. But I may not be using the terms correctly.

4/17/10 8:56 PM  
Blogger Matt Townsley said...

Karl,
I'll push you a bit farther, but only because I'm sensing that you're open to it. Feel free to say, "hey, Matt...cut me some slack here!"

From my experience, students see anything we enter into the grade book as permanent. Ask your students, my hunch is they'll agree. With that in mind, why should ever quiz go into the grade book? Could there be an ungraded "pre-quiz" or maybe call it a "checkpoint." Every student would get this feedback rather than relying on them to come in outside of class. Use these formative assessments to help you decide what and when you need to re-teach. Do it. Then, give assessments that go into the grade book. This small little step might make your assessment/grading a bit more formative, at least from my perspective.

You could still allow for re-assessments as you stated in your previous comment.

Take it or leave it as you see fit. It's your blog. :)

4/17/10 9:10 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Matt Townsley – Hey, Matt, cut me … kidding. This is good stuff, and I’m going to have to think more about it, but my initial thoughts are:

As soon as I have these students, then I can ask them that question! I guess I’m hoping that if I explain this correctly, they won’t see that grade in the gradebook as permanent. (Acknowledging, however, that it can become permanent, which I don’t like, but see aforementioned nod to I’m not sure I can take it to the next level just yet.)

I think I agree philosophically that anything formative shouldn’t go in the gradebook. But my problem is I don’t see where formative ever ends (other than death), so we all have to pick a line somewhere. (Again, my preference would be to eliminate grades altogether, but I doubt I’ll be able to singlehandedly accomplish that in my school with my one section of Algebra next year.)

My thinking was (and perhaps still is, pondering), that their ability to retake multiple times, with opportunities for help in between, is a decent middle ground. I guess I sort of feel like my initial, whole class quiz (I’m actually trying to avoid the ‘q’ word, hence the awkward use of “formative assessment” as my category title) is the “pre-quiz” or “checkpoint,” and then the feedback/reteach comes one-on-one (or one on few) both in-class and outside of class. The grade in the gradebook is a placeholder, but I admit that I’m using that placeholder as a little bit of leverage to get them to do the retakes. I think your system is better, but I’m not sure I can pull it off with the limited number of times I see these kids, and with my rustiness as an Algebra teacher. But I need to think a little bit more to see if that’s really true or not.

Keep it coming . . .

4/17/10 9:28 PM  
Blogger monika hardy said...

Convince me we need a summative test...

4/17/10 10:02 PM  
Blogger David Cox said...

If there are opportunities for reassessments, is it really summative, Matt? Summative, formative, differentiation, inquiry...all these terms seem to take in their own meanings depending in whose classroom we are talking about.

Could the inclusion of a summative be driven by the need to see if students have retained the skill and/or can apply them in problem solving situations, Monika? It seems like this is what the summative part of the grading scheme hopes to accomplish. Or did I misread you, Karl?

4/17/10 10:27 PM  
Blogger Matt Townsley said...

Somehow I knew David would crash the party with a pragmatic view on the situation. (That's a complement, Mr. Cox!)
Here's where I still see some controversy in the formative vs. summative argument: If the *only* opportunity students have to be re-assessed is outside of class (I realize this isn't the case in your proposed model, Karl), then is it truly a formative opportunity? If we leave the re-assessment to chance and motivation, I don't think it really can be considered formative. James Popham in Transformative Assessment said, "Formative assessment is a planned process in which assessment-elicited evidence of students' status is used by teachers to adjust their ongoing instructional
procedures or by students to adjust their current learning tactics."

If teachers are providing minimal in-class purposeful feedback and then using the assessment-elicited evidence only to encourage students to come in *outside of class*, I don't know if this truly fits the assessment FOR learning model. I see it as a "use assessment to see how many kids we can motivate to come in outside of class" model while our formative assessment techniques inside the classroom have room for improvement.

Disclaimer: I'm bringing all of this up to question my own practice just as much as anyone else's assessment scheme.

The bottom line I'm trying to mull over: once a teacher has taken the dive into this type of system, what is the appropriate balance of in class vs. outside of class feedback and re-assessment?

(Karl, you have established a nice middle ground. Keep your head up, man. :)

4/18/10 6:33 AM  
Blogger Matt Townsley said...

update to previous comment: see Jason's thoughts
http://alwaysformative.blogspot.com/2010/04/almost-formative.html

4/18/10 6:56 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

Thanks everyone, this is really helping my thinking. Let me take a moment to share some more information about my school that will perhaps address some of the questions above, then respond to individual commenters. This will be somewhat lengthy.

I’m guessing we’d all agree (at least I hope so) that each school/classroom has some unique characteristics that are going to affect the teaching and learning. A huge one at my school that impacts this discussion is our variable schedule and the culture that goes with that. As I’ve mentioned previously, our school has a college-like schedule, with some classes meeting 5 days a week, but others only MWF or TR or four days a week like our Algebra classes. Built into this schedule is the idea of unscheduled hours, with freshmen having between two and four each week, sophomores between four and six, and juniors and seniors between six and eight (although many upperclassmen do end up scheduling more hours based on their interests/needs) – this is out of thirty hours total (six period day).

Students can use those unscheduled hours as they see fit – working on their own, going to the library, getting help from teachers, or just hanging out with friends (they can even go off-campus if they wish). But part of our culture is the expectation that students use those unscheduled hours to come in and get help from their teachers when they need it. So students have three options for help during their unscheduled time. They can come see their teacher if their teacher is also unscheduled. If their teacher is not unscheduled, they can visit the Math Department Office where there is always at least one teacher (and usually more) who are unscheduled each period (and part of our culture as teachers is that we are to help any student that comes into our department offices – our unscheduled hours are not designated as “planning” only). Or they can visit the study center, which is always staffed with a few teachers (although not necessarily always a math teacher) and with peer tutors (upperclassmen who are doing well and want to help – think National Honor Society type students).

For my students this will be complicated somewhat by the fact that I’m “unscheduled” all the time when I’m not teaching them, but I have other full-time responsibilities (and my desk is not in the department office). I’m planning on trying to address this by having them first try to schedule with me if they are planning on coming in (so that I can put it on my calendar if I’m available), and then they can always drop in and see if I’m available. (And, of course, they still have the Math Department and the Study Center.) Some of how they utilize this may even factor into the 10% preparation part of their grade, but I'm not sure about that yet.

Part of the job of teachers who teach freshmen at my school is to acculturate students to this idea of using their unscheduled hours to go in and see teachers, to get that extra help and to build relationships. So the part of my assessment plan involving coming in to get help and to take the retakes is intentional - taking advantage of our schedule and building on our culture. (I will also use class time to help them – and have them help each other – more on that in a future post about what I’m planning on doing during class time – one downside of choosing assessment as my first post about this.)

So, hopefully that provides a little bit of context for some of this (not saying it addresses all the issues brought up above). Now, on to your comments in the next comment (4096 character limit).

4/18/10 12:32 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@monika hardy – I’m not sure I can convince you we need a summative test, but I have three possible answers to that.

First, and this is the one I cling to so that I can sleep at night, I don’t really have a choice. It’s an expectation at my school to give final exams, and the Algebra team I’m joining already has a common assessment for the final exam as a result of our district PLC work (based on DuFour). I’m not going to be able to change that teaching one section of Algebra.

Second, and perhaps a more palatable answer, is that I do think there is some value in having students periodically review and coalesce all their knowledge. I think this not only helps them retain the knowledge, but also provides an opportunity for them to perhaps see some relationships and connections between the mathematics that they didn’t see along the way. I sort of relate it to a performance in art, music, drama or athletics, where students have to bring all their skills to bear in a single moment. (I know that’s not a perfect analogy, and I also know that a typical final exam like the one I’ll have to give is a far cry from those other performances, but I still think there’s something there there.)

Third answer – I don’t really know.

@David Cox – Thanks for joining in. See my second answer to monika above for what I was thinking in terms of the value of the summative assessment.

@Matt Townsley – See my lengthy description above about unscheduled hours and the expectation that students come in for help. I think that at least partially addresses your concern about outside of class, motivation, etc. – that’s actually an intentional piece of this based on the schedule and culture of my school. Having said that, I am also planning on using class time to address some of this (although probably not the actual retakes) – again, more in a future post on my plans for in class. And this is helping me think a little bit more carefully about that part of my in class plan, so thanks a ton. Thanks also for the link to Jason’s blog – very helpful.

4/18/10 12:32 PM  
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4/18/10 1:32 PM  
Blogger Ben Grey said...

A couple quick points.

Read this brief work about assessment by Grant Wiggins. http://www.newhorizons.org/strategies/assess/wiggins.htm

Now go read any other assessment pieces by both Grant Wiggins and Rick Wormeli that you can get your hands on.

Both authors state explicitly in almost all of their discussions about feedback that formative assessment should not be graded or entered into a gradebook. They make the association with a driving aptitude test. We are not graded on how we did all along the way as we learned how to drive with our permit. Rather, we are graded in a final, summative assessment that demonstrates our proficiency at driving. Our final grade was based on our mastery performance.

The idea of averaging performance over time is near absurdity. A strong statement to be sure, but yet one I feel is accurate.

It would be as if I were to give your blog a grade right now from the time of its inception up to this point. Well, Karl, you got a 93% on your blog.

93% of what? Even with subcategories, how would that inform your audience if I posted that on your blog for them to understand your proficiency as a blogger?

Also, grading for effort is problematic at best. Which raises serious questions about homework.

Our grading system needs serious help. I give you great credit for begin transparent about your practices and seeking to learn more through this experience.

If only all educators were as willing.

4/18/10 1:36 PM  
Blogger Jennifer said...

I feel a bit like someone jumping into a swiftly moving river - I've done my best to read the previous comments to ensure I'm not repeating and giving credit where is due, but apologies if I mis-step.

I'm with Ben (and Grant, Harry, and Susan, etc. - all of the authors who advocate against grading formative assessment) but recognize the need to include more than the summmative grades in the book. It's going to take a while to wean parents, students and teachers off our collective addiction to grades and I respect the need for slow change.

As an alternative of "counting" quizzes, what if you presented your students with the option of choice? You may still given them formative feedback in numerical terms (i.e. 7 out 10 correct) or only given them feedback on one item. Their task as a self-assessor is to identify ten formative assessments that reflect their growth as a learner. They will receive the full 70% if they accomplish two things. 1. Present you with 10 assignments (connects to your goal of helping them learn responsibility) 2. present you with a compelling written argument why those ten pieces demonstrate their growth as a mathematician AND their plan for the upcoming marking period for improving their mathematical understanding (NOT improving their grade). If you provide them with a rubric that articulates your expectations for said compelling argument and workplan, there is no reason why a student wouldn't easily earn all of the points available to them (or the 70%, however it works itself out). Arguably, a student who is not "good at math" could still pass the course through the strength of their self-assessment but when considering long-term life skills, a learner who recognizes their strengths and weaknesses is more likely to do better than one who is good at Algebra (with all due respect to Algebra).

Your grading and documetning responsibility would be next to nill as they will responsible for collecting the components and organzing them. The main responsibility you'll face is giving them quality formative assessments that allow them express growth - which it sounds like you're already doing.

Monika - I'll do my best to persuade you on the summative point by pointing to this blog. As authors, when we click "publish your comment", we are summarizing our learning - in effect, submitting a summative assessment for evaluation by others. Summative assessments happen all of the time in real life. To me the challenge isn't the need for summative but rather limiting summative to "test". No where is this challenge more felt than in the math and sciences (as Matt identified). In an ideal situation, students would demonstrate their mathematical understanding by solving a real-world problem but since we silo mathematics understanding, this is nearly impossible.

4/18/10 2:43 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Ben Grey – Thanks for chiming in, even if you do doubt the reading I’ve done :-)

I agree to a certain extent, which is why my summative assessment is 20% or 100%. If they can drive the Algebra car at the end of the semester (especially if the car leaves Denver traveling at 60 mph at 2 pm, and your car leaves Barrington at 3 pm traveling . . .), then I’m all for slapping that stellar grade on their transcript. (Even if I could make the final 100% for everyone – which I can’t, more on that below – then we’re back to their performance on one task at one moment in time, which I think you would agree also is problematic.)

As far as homework, I think I pretty much covered that in the post (and I will discuss what I’m doing with homework in the next post). 10% for preparation (which includes homework, but other things as well) was my compromise. Perhaps if I was better than a 93% blogger you wouldn’t have asked that question. Nothing else to see here – move along.

And I agree that our grading system needs serious help, and that averaging grades is far from ideal. As I’ve stated, I would choose to do away with grades altogether but, hello Mr. Grey, I’m teaching one section of 32 or so kids in a school of 2150 in a society that for the most part is unwilling to agree with you and me. So, I have to find a way (for now, at least) to do the best I can for my students within this system. And that includes grades, and not just at the end of the system because, first of all, their heads and their parents’ heads would explode, and second of all we have weekly eligibility which is pulled directly from our electronic gradebooks. Sure, I can game that system, but I’d rather spend my time trying to provide feedback to my students. As I said in the post, the topic of grades is for another post – please go ahead and write it.

So, while I’m still trying to figure out how to incorporate some of the excellent pushback in these comments into my assessment strategy, I think I’m on the right track to help my students learn Algebra, become better learners and people, and learn more about themselves and the world. I think providing them timely feedback on specific concepts, as well as the ability to improve on those concepts (and, yes, by enticing them with a better grade in the gradebook), is a decent start. I’ve done as much as I think I can feasibly do given the various restraints on my particular situation to pretty much remove grades from the equation. (It’s going to be really hard to get a bad grade in my class – my hope is that after a few weeks the kids are going to figure that out and – gasp – focus on the learning. We’ll see.) After a semester or two back in the saddle, then I may be able to tell you how much of this actually makes sense, and what I’ve got totally wrong.

4/18/10 2:47 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Jennifer – I’m going to have to spend some more time thinking about your suggestions because I like some of where you’re heading (I feel like I’m still very weak on their self-assessment of their work/learning). The part of your comment that I struggle with is:

“Arguably, a student who is not "good at math" could still pass the course through the strength of their self-assessment but when considering long-term life skills, a learner who recognizes their strengths and weaknesses is more likely to do better than one who is good at Algebra (with all due respect to Algebra).”

While I agree about the power and importance of self-assessment and life skills, I’m still tasked with them learning the Algebra skills. I’m not interested in them “passing the course” if they don’t know the Algebra, because I don’t think that’s going to help them. I’d like to find a way to do both – learn the Algebra skills and get the self-assessment/lifelong learner skills.

4/18/10 2:56 PM  
Blogger Jennifer said...

Karl - You raise a valid and reasonable concern. Consider for a moment the flip side of the coin. As a special ed teacher, I had at least three students I can name off the top of my head who could do the math. Without a doubt, they could talk me through the problem solving, balance equations and do what was required of a 13-year old mathematician. They "failed" math because they couldn't/didn't do the work. It was that simple. When report cards came out, comments went to their lack of studying, failing to do homework - all items that had to do with playing school, not math. I'd imagine you've failed at least one student because they didn't do the work. So - does passing always mean they master the math? (I passed enough math to get to college. It wasn't until my second year of statistics before I realized I didn't know how to speak math and needed some serious tutoring to get through the heavier doctoral-level stuff and now embrace DataDiva as my Twitter name).

Given the concern you raised about knowing the algebra, I'd advocate for changing your percentage break-down. If what matters to you at the end of the day is their ability to do the Algebra (as best assessed through on-demand Algebra tasks), what about a 60/40 split? 60% on-demand (summative tasks), 40% formative learning reflection?

Ha! My capcha is "radness" - apparently Google approves of this topic!

4/18/10 3:06 PM  
Blogger David Cox said...

I work from the assumption that all reassessments will take place in class, Matt.. I know that's not realistic for many classes, but I agree with you that in order for a system to be equitable, all students need access. I have the luxury of 94 minutes per day/ 5 days per week for entire year. I have to build this time for reassessment into my schedule. Oh, and I definitely took the party crashing comment as a compliment

Karl, if you are giving two questions are concept, how are you arriving at a score for the given concept? If a student nails the more difficult problem, does that validate them missing the easier problem? How are you delivering your exams and retakes? The reason I ask is because I started to deliver my formatives via our LAN and it has made keeping track of things a snap. Retakes are a breeze as well. I described the process here. I agree with your procrastination concern, even though I have allowed them an unlimited number of retakes.

Thanks again for your transparency and for allowing me to "crash the party." ;-)

4/18/10 3:07 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Jennifer - I dunno, I think those 3 students you describe would have a pretty good chance of not only passing my class, but getting an A or a B (for whatever worth those letters are). If they can do the Algebra, they'll do just fine, even if they never do homework (and, again, for those of you counting at home, my next post will be about homework). They would have to do pretty poorly on the lots of the initial assessments, and choose never to to do a retake. (And, if they're special ed, they also have an additional support system built in, which also gives them additional opportunities to take those retakes - at least in my building).

Now, to answer your question, "does passing always mean they master the math" - my hope is that in my class, yes, yes it does.

4/18/10 3:26 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@David Cox - You're going to have to give me some time to digest your post and look at ExamView (yikes, so much to learn). Without really looking at all yet, my first question is likely to be about multiple choice versus free response with any kind of automated system.

94 minutes a day for 5 days a week for an entire year? Um, yeah, that would help. I'll have them for 59 minutes a day, 4 days a week, and some kids will change at semester. Based on our calendar this year (and we are talking possible furlough days in my district next year due to budget issues), I'm estimating I'll have about 60 days with them first semester, and 64 second semester (and 5 of those each semester are shortened classes due to late start for our PLC days).

4/18/10 3:37 PM  
Blogger Brendan said...

Karl,

Well I'm a bit late to the party, but I hope to add a bit of decent content.

First I would suggest reading this blog. http://101studiostreet.com/wordpress/

A great example of implementing standards based grading into high school math class.

I know you can't do standards based grading. Why not concept based grading with trends?

If you haven't heard of that it's because I just made it up. I'm thinking define concepts (no longer than a week of classroom time). Grade those using a formative/summative system. Taking the idea that students can retake or in some other way prove that they learned a concept later. (I like the idea of letting students explain what they did wrong and why, or writing and solving their own problems) Add a bastardized trending system from Marzano and give more weight to the most recent assessment.

Basically the idea is to break the course down into the essential concepts (questions if you want) assess those questions and allow students the opportunity to prove that even though they didn't understand the concept the first time, they did eventually pick it up later.

4/18/10 3:44 PM  
Blogger David Cox said...

Ben
If a teacher allows students to retake a particular assesent or part thereof and the new understanding replaces the old--it isn't averaged, then I the process of assessing and reassessing formative or summative? I guess I'm asking Matt this question as well.

Shouldn't a student's grade reflect their understanding at that point in time? A formative may drive future instruction as well as future activities of the learner, but it's still an inication of what they know.

4/18/10 7:25 PM  
Blogger Sam Blackman said...

Great post! I think your goals are are perfect and not too high for students to follow. I think your assessments are fair and will hold up strong in the classroom.

4/18/10 7:33 PM  
Blogger Matt Townsley said...

David - I don't think re-assessments are the problem. As I stated earlier, making re-assessments accessible only outside of class and/or as the only means of "formative" (whatever that means these days) assessment doesn't seem to make sense though.

Shouldn't a student's grade reflect their understanding at that point in time? Maybe this wasn't pointed my way, but I'll answer it anyway. Yes, I agree with you, David. I currently use the most recent score rather than averaging them.

I don't know how long this thread is going to last, but I sure am enjoying it right now. I appreciate how so many involved aren't willing to settle for the status quo (my guess is that Karl's initial post/thoughts will be pushing the envelope in his school) and are searching for clarity beyond the obvious answers.

4/18/10 7:37 PM  
Blogger Shawn Cornally said...

Karl: Your unscheduled hours system is my dream. I would love to actually have a school day that matches what we teacher; that is, self-assessment and responsibility. Why should the kids have to do so much at home when they spend 8-10 hours at school per day? You don't spend that much time in a college lecture hall. Have you written about the advent of this system before? I'll go look.

Maybe I haven't fully read the novel of comments here, but I have a slight issue with giving any credit for homework. Anytime credit is given, the students see it as an accumulation game.

Assigning homework, but not "grading" it, sends the message that they have the choice to do it or not. Those who don't may do well, and good for them! Most likely, if they choose to ignore practice, they will fail. This should teach the message about the link of studying to understanding better than any graded practice ever could. I thought this line of logic was garbage, until I tried it and it worked. I've written about it in my room, at 101studiostreet.com/wordpress/, which I see already has a link! OMG! I hope you guys can stand my typos...

Great blog, btw. Welcome to my RSS Reader.

=shawn

4/18/10 7:52 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@David and Matt - I'm guessing that Ben was talking about the fact that I would be averaging all of my formative assessments (to make up that 70%), not that I would be averaging the multiple retakes on a given assessment. I could be wrong about that.

4/18/10 7:53 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Shawn Cornally - Welcome to the blog. Added you to my reader a few weeks ago due to Dan the man.

Yeah, I struggled with the Preparation category lots. It's not just homework, but your logic applies to all the rest just as well. Like I said, I compromised (caved?) by giving it 10%.

I'm not sure there's a great writeup anywhere of variable scheduling, but a brief description on page 5 of this (warning: large PDF file).

4/18/10 8:00 PM  
Blogger Beth said...

Karl,

Have you considered where pre-assessment fits into your grading? Will you provide students the opportunity to show you what they know BEFORE you begin instruction, so they can move forward without 'wasting' time on what they already know? If they show you mastery of a skill or concept (however you define that), could the pre-assessment take the place of the other grades you might give during your instruction on a given topic?

4/19/10 9:16 AM  
OpenID shareski said...

Let me just comment on the your efforts to include a collaborative goal.

I've been doing something similar with my classes albeit, they are not Mathematics but it shouldn't matter. In essence, I've had my students write a reflection on how they've contributed to the learning of others and how others have contributed to theirs. I have them track and provide specific examples. Early on I'll be very explicit when I observe it happen and cite it as an example of social learning which is the term I've used.

Math may be more challenging but good teachers like yourself likely don't have a problem but the idea that students gather in a room together and don't expect to learn from and with each other is simply educational malpractice in many ways. I think we need to explicitly require students to see how valuable it is to learn from each other. I'll be interested to see how you incorporate that concept into your class.

4/19/10 9:28 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Beth – That’s a great question. Yes, I have thought about pre-assessment. But, no, I haven’t figured out how to do it well. My thinking (excuse? cop-out?) is that, for the most part, this should be new material for students and therefore they will not know it to a level of mastery before we start. But, obviously, that may not be true for all students on all concepts. If I did figure out a way to do it well, then, yes, I would be comfortable putting that in the gradebook and allowing them to bypass the later assessment on that topic. Do you have any ideas of how to structure/manage this, and whether it’s likely in an Algebra class that students would truly have mastery (not just informed guessing) before the instruction?

@shareski – Glad to see you figured out how to comment despite my flawed blogging platform. :-) That’s an interesting way to go about encouraging/assessing collaboration. I need to think a little bit more about how that might look in my class. My knee-jerk, oh-no-not-one-more-thing response is the old excuse: time. I’m worried about how to fit that into my limited time with students. I was planning on the reflective piece already (more on that in a future post), so perhaps I could include this idea as a formal part of that reflection. Thanks for making my thinking go there.

4/19/10 9:38 AM  
Blogger Jennifer said...

Karl - I don't know if Beth was referring to CBM (Curriculum Based Measures) AKA OBM (Outcome Based Measures) but they address what she was describing - assessment with a goal of "non-time specific" mastery. The Fuchs from Vanderbilt have done a fair amount of research into it. I stopped adding to my library on the topic in about 2005 but I have about 20 articles I can throw up on my wiki that address the research and management of the process if you're interested. I had the chance to participate in research as both a student (in Middle School) and as a master's candidate. The best part was watching students engage in independent study during content they'd already mastered. Good stuff.

4/19/10 9:43 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Jennifer - Yes, please, I would appreciate it.

Do you have any thoughts on my question to Beth re: the likelihood of students in my Algebra class already possessing mastery level knowledge before instruction? In my previous incarnation as a math teacher, I certainly felt like I never saw that, but then again I didn't specifically look for it.

4/19/10 9:49 AM  
Blogger Jennifer said...

Sent you a tweet with a link to my wiki with a bunch of articles on CBM.

Re: previous knowledge. To me, many of these conversations circle around the idea of teaching as an art versus a science. As an artist, it's your sense that students didn't have mastery prior to your instruction. As a scientist, you'd know for sure through diagnostic or pre-assessment. At worst, you'll know exactly where their issues are. At best, you'll know the content you can skip and be able to demonstrate to higher ups why you made that call.

4/19/10 10:32 AM  
Blogger annes said...

Wow- and I can say I knew you when...

Here are some thoughts from your friendly neighborhood English teacher:

1- Like Mike Porter said, you need to put writing into their work. This could be as simple as a reflection on their learning, writing out their thinking to solving a problem, extensions of their learning (where math is used in the real world or real world applications of what they are learning)etc... but I think writing is that important. (see goal 2, 3, 4)

2- I would like to see your kids scribe. We talk about this all the time, but this gives kids ownership over the class, and contribute something meaningful back to the class. (see goals 2, 3, and 4)

3- where is the real world context? Where are you showing them or helping to show them the applicability of what they are learning? Think about all those AWNM discussions with Hannah and others.

4- I like your grade breakdown, but I think you should see what the kids think before you nail it down. Giving ownership and responsibillity creates a collaboratively learning environment (see Goal 3)

5- No matter what, remember to teach with passion, This is NOT education as Usual, it is ok to make mistakes, and CHANGE THE WORLD

4/19/10 2:24 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Anne - Thanks. Remember, this post was just about assessment. Future posts will expand on this, but I'll be bringing the real world into class as I can. It's just not a separate, delineated part of my assessment. And writing (both reflection and as part of their formative assessments) is also part of the plan, just not a separate category in the assessment.

I'm considering scribing, but it's a little more problematic since I won't have laptops and since scribing math is a little trickier (and, yes, I know Darren did it with his students, but not freshmen). At this point my thinking is I'd rather their writing focus on the reflection piece, and the problem solving piece, not the scribe piece, but I may change my mind about that.

As far as having the students determine the grade breakdown, I considered it, but in the end decided that wasn't going to work. They don't know enough in this case to make the best decision (IMO), and will likely revert to what they are used to which, again IMO, is not the best method to use.

4/19/10 3:07 PM  
Blogger monika hardy said...

Very cool comments you guys ... made me pen a post - thank you for that - this is all such a refining process.
http://monkblogs.blogspot.com/2010/04/redefining-assessment.html

Only sharing a link here - within Karl's post - because your comments and thinking have been so valuable to me... want to share back if I can.

I think my beef with summative is just semantics... In my head, if it's worth testing it should be worth refining... formative.

4/20/10 12:55 AM  
Blogger Beth said...

Not knowing the make up of your students and your vertical math articulation makes it hard to guess if students will have much algebraic knowledge before they reach you. I work specifically with gifted students, so I always take that angle when I look at things. I can tell you that I have a significant number of students SUCCESSFULLY taking Algebra 1 (the same text, course objectives, and summative assessments at the 9th grade course) in 6th grade. All because we started to pre-assess and place them more effectively when they leave fifth grade, as opposed to having everyone take the same math courses all the way through. And before anyone flips out, they aren't rigid 'tracks' like the old days - they are fluid...students move up and down as necessary, and they are subject-specific (we have advanced courses in all subject areas, not just math; students who are advanced in math, may not be advanced in other subjucts, which is okay!).

That said, I would not assume it is appropriate for all students to take Algebra 1 early (that will lead to a whole different debate!!), but, given my experience, it is certainly within reason that you will have some students come to you with a vast amount of algebraic reasoning, understanding, and intuition.

How to pull it off? Create strong pre-assessments (they don't have to be long, but they should be enough for students to clearly show they have mastery of the concept you are teaching), and then be prepared to have alternate learning experiences for those students. Tomlinson, Kingore, and Heacox are all great Differentiation experts to check out. The book "Developing Math Talent," by Assouline and Lupkowski-Shoplik is also great. Be warned though, it will change the way you think about your top math students!!

4/20/10 9:51 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Beth - Thanks for the info. For the most part, the students you describe will have been identified and tracked into Algebra before they get to me in high school. We have a large number of 7th and 8th graders who take Algebra because they were ready (or thought they were ready at least) to take it before high school.

That doesn't mean, of course, that there won't be some that have slipped through. If I figure out a way to do this, would you suggest that pre-testing be over the same concepts (about 3 at a time) as I described for my assessments, or one big pre-test over say the first semester's worth of concepts?

4/20/10 3:33 PM  
Blogger Beth said...

I would suggest going concept by concept. It will be easier to manage and will fit well with your other assessment strategies. Even if only a handful of students are able to show mastery with a pre-test, you will have a better idea how to focus your instruction if you have seen how students tackle the pre-test (thus making it a powerful formative assessment tool!).

4/21/10 7:29 AM  
Blogger sharon said...

My daughter is in 9th standard and she is afraid of Algebra. However, recently she has found an online tutoring website, tutorteddy.com that helps her immensely to do her algebra homework. To be very frank, she has improved a lot after using the site.

7/5/10 11:52 PM  

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Thursday, April 08, 2010

One Toe Back in the Classroom

My school district, like just about all school districts in Colorado (and many across the U.S.), is facing a severe budget crunch. I won’t really comment much on that other than to say that we are losing many good staff members and our students will be the worse because of it.

Due to the reduced staffing in my school, I will be teaching at least one section of Algebra I next year. This both excites me and makes me a little bit nervous. It’s exciting because I miss being in my own classroom with my own students. I’m in classrooms every day helping teachers and students, but it’s just not the same as having my own classroom and really getting to know kids.

But I’m also a little bit nervous, primarily for two reasons. First, it’s been over ten years since I’ve had my own classroom, and I’m worried about getting my teaching legs back under me. Second, and probably the more worrisome reason, is the fact that this is in addition to all my current duties. (In fact, I will have more to do next year because we’ll be adding netbooks for all of our 10th grade Language Arts classes as part of the next phase of my district’s Inspired Writing project. This is a really good thing, but it still adds up to more to do.)

I’m estimating that teaching one section of Algebra equates to at least two hours added to my day, figuring one hour of class itself plus at least another hour of prep and working with students outside of class each day. Given that I’m doing a fairly good job of keeping busy all day and late into the afternoon (and often more learning in the evening) as it is, I’m worried about what’s going to get missed. I’m worried about balancing the needs of my students in my Algebra class and the needs of my staff (and all of “my” students in the entire school). I’m worried that I’ll treat both parts of my job as “full-time,” which in a way they are, but the return-on-planning time ratio for teaching just one section is not in my favor. (This problem of time is nothing new for educators, of course, but since this is my blog I get to occasionally make it all about me.)

Okay, now that I’ve got those worries out of the way (thanks for indulging me), I’d like to look forward in a more positive fashion. Over the next few months I’m hoping to do a series of blog posts sharing my current thinking of what I’m going to try in my classroom next year. I’m going to put some ideas out there and then ask my network to provide me feedback and new ideas to consider. (Crowdsourcing Algebra – works for me.) My hope is that the result will be a better learning experience for my students next year.

So, in hopes that you will actually take me up on that, let me briefly describe some of the parameters of my Algebra class. (See how I worked the word “parameters” into that last sentence? I feel like a math teacher again already.) My high school operates on a variable schedule, which is similar to a college schedule with some classes meeting five days a week, others meeting MWF, others TR, and still others four days a week (see page 5 of our pathfinder (pdf) for more). My Algebra class will meet four days a week (MWRF) for 59 minutes each day.

To try to segment my day a little bit, I’ll be teaching first period, which is from 7:21 – 8:20 am. My students will be primarily freshmen (9th grade here in the U.S., generally fourteen years old at the start of the year), although I could have a couple of upperclassmen in my class, and I will most likely have between 30 and 35 students in class. We schedule for an entire year at one time, but because our classes are one semester and students often move things around in order to take the electives they want, I won’t necessarily have the same students all year (I’ll probably have more than half of my first semester students second semester, but will have a fair amount of turnover). We have a six period day, and freshmen typically have two to four unscheduled hours each week, where they can work in the library, visit teachers to get help, see their counselor, or choose to hang out with friends in the cafeteria. (We also have an open campus, so they can leave campus if they choose.)

Because of our semester-based courses, we have a fairly well-defined curriculum in terms of the standards that must be covered each semester (since many students will switch classes at semester). So while I have tremendous flexibility in terms of how I teach in my classroom, I’m somewhat restricted in terms of what must be taught each semester. And, of course, I have our state mandated testing (up through 10th grade, plus ACT mandated for 11th graders) in March (this testing will be changing soon, however, as Colorado is developing revised standards and assessments).

Students at my school are generally great. They mostly come from middle to upper middle class families who value education, and many of them open enroll in our school because they want to be there. Having said that, they are still fourteen years old and I’m tasked with sharing the joys of Algebra with them at 7:21 in the morning :-).

So, that gives you enough background to play along if you’d like in subsequent posts. I hope you do.

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Blogger Kern Kelley said...

Let me be the first to say, congratulations. The further we get away from the kids, the further we're away from why we started in the first place.

4/8/10 7:41 PM  
Blogger Raymond Johnson said...

Congratulations, good luck, and most teachers I've talked to agree: "part-time teacher" feels like an oxymoron. To me, being a teacher isn't a job, it's an identity, and not something to turn on and off throughout the day. I'm sure you'll manage the juggling act well, but you'll have those moments when you wish you could have all day to plan an amazing lesson.

4/8/10 7:48 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Kern - Thanks, appreciate it.

@Raymond - That's exactly what I'm worried about. I'm worried that I'll do both parts of my job with mediocrity.

4/8/10 8:42 PM  
OpenID michelleclarkepc said...

Embarking on anything different from what one is used to is both exciting and can be a source of anxiety at once. You are fortunate that you have a wide audience to draw upon for ideas and support (yours truly included in that, for whatever it's worth :D). A helpful resource for Algebra that I've found (either to use in conjunction with your own daily lessons or just as a way to refresh your own memory on concepts) is to use YouTube video clips. The YayMath guy is my favorite! He has such verve and energy and he's funny... you can see the rapport he has with his class and I've found his video clips extremely useful, not only for freshman classes, but for more advanced classes too (it's amazing how many students need brush ups on "basic" algebraic concepts). No matter which way you use it, even if you just recommend the clips to your students to assist themselves at home during homework hours when they might not have access to your expertise, you can't go wrong with the YayMath guy! He also has a dedicated website here: http://yaymath.org/

Good luck and have fun! :)

4/8/10 11:31 PM  
Blogger scmorgan said...

I wish you all the best. As you know, I moved back into the classroom for two years for the same reason. I did enjoy having the chance to finally do all that I had been asking teachers to try. And most days, I loved being there. But....it is difficult to support others and focus on your classroom. I was told to let the other responsibilities go--but people don't stop asking, and I did feel pulled in many directions.Your positive attitude will help. I have a feeling you'll be an amazing teacher, once again:)

4/8/10 11:37 PM  
Blogger MartiC said...

A site that I would recommend for creative math ideas with interesting integration is http://blog.mrmeyer.com/ I am not currently teaching math, actually I'm not currently teaching anything since I am a Fellow, but if I were I would be using his ideas.

4/9/10 7:21 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@michelleclarkpc - Thanks for the words of encouragement and the resource.

@scmorgan - Thanks. Hopefully I can live up to that.

@MartiC - Yeah, if I can be half as good as Dan Meyer next year I'll be reasonably happy. Now if he would only post his entire set of Algebra lesson plans as he has his geometry ones . . .

4/9/10 7:25 AM  
Blogger Christine Archer said...

Oh gosh, I don't envy you. Having taught a class the year we first opened, I can relate to trying to find balance between the classroom and the technology duties. I can't say that I did either one justice that year. Even one class requires the same amount of planning that teaching five would. All you can do is your best and cut yourself a break if either one turns out differently than expected. Good luck!

4/9/10 8:17 AM  
Blogger Mike said...

Karl, best of luck. Not sure if you thought of this frustration... since you'll still be in other classes, you will have just taught a lesson, visit an English class and then think to yourself or blog... "crap, that would have been cool to add/talk about/relate to 32 minutes ago!" So, take notes. Also, I remember when you told me that if you could, you'd eliminate math class and integrate it each class. So, have you thought about how you might make your class thematic to Social Studies, science, and English?

Either way, Karl Fisch's medicore is most people's great. Cannot wait to follow the new posts.

4/9/10 9:31 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Mike - Yeah, have thought of that. Multiple problems in my school trying to do that, because the students in my Algebra class won't all be in the same LA, SS, Science, etc. classes, so really hard to do anything cross-disciplinary.

Having said that, I've already talked with some folks in other departments about what they do in their classes that freshmen typically take.

4/9/10 9:37 AM  
Blogger Jackie Ballarini said...

I am very, very excited by this. I can empathize with your overloaded schedule, yet I am very much looking forward to learning about teaching math from you.

Do you have a list of standards you have to cover? Do you have to use a certain textbook? Give course alike exams? How much flexibility are you given in designing your course?

4/9/10 6:00 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Jackie - I was hoping you might stop by and help me with this. Slow down with the questions, though, or I'll have nothing left to blog about in future posts :-)

I'll be talking more in-depth about all those questions in future posts but, briefly:

Yes, we have a textbook and a curriculum (that pretty much aligns with the textbook). Through our PLC's the Algebra team has developed some common assessments, including the final exams both semesters. (I'm getting up to speed on all this myself, so bear with me.) So I'm pretty restricted but, within those restrictions, I have a lot of flexibility in terms of how I teach, so that's what I'm going to explore in some future posts.

4/9/10 7:34 PM  
Blogger monika hardy said...

what we've decided works best for getting it all in..
short snippets of instruction during class... but most of class time is spent doing what we normally call homework and/or activities.

kids get more individualized help/experiences...

here's our grid in beta form.. for algebra 2 http://howtorunclass.wetpaint.com/page/lessons+-+jings+and+voicethreads

4/10/10 3:40 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@monika - Thanks, I'll take a look. I'm actually planning something similar - more on that soon.

4/10/10 3:46 PM  
Blogger Jackie Ballarini said...

I didn't mean to steal your future topics - I'll be patient. Or try to.

One piece of unsolicited advice - try to observe (even if only for a few minutes) as many of the current Alg I classrooms as you can.

4/10/10 10:39 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Jackie - Yep, already asked the current Algebra I teachers if I could drop in. Haven't made it in yet, but I hope to this coming week.

4/11/10 8:14 AM  
Blogger mckinnellkellyedm310 said...

Congratulations on getting your own class back! I'm sure you will do a great job! The way your school operates seems a little confusing, but very interesting to me! Good luck with your classroom!

Kelly
EDM310 at USA
http://mckinnellkellyedm310.blogspot.com/

4/12/10 1:42 PM  
Blogger Lary Kleeman said...

I think this is the best thing that could happen for you, dude. Back to the Future!

4/13/10 11:41 AM  
Blogger Sam Blackman said...

Congrats on getting back in the classroom! I'm sure all will go well. I have no experience as a teacher but from a students perspective the way your school operates sounds awesome! My school was nothing like that at all! I think if I had that kind of laid back and free atmosphere I might have wanted to work even harder. Good luck!

4/18/10 7:02 PM  
Blogger The Dukes said...

Apologies for commenting belatedly on this post, but I couldn't resist chiming in. As a former student of yours, I couldn't be more pleased to hear that a new crop of students will experience Mr. Fisch in the classroom. I always felt lucky that I got in just under the wire.

I wouldn't worry about mediocrity, it's not something you are capable of; your standards are high and your commitment is unwavering. Your students will experience excellence in teaching and be the better for it all the rest of their days.

4/21/10 9:22 PM  
Blogger MBelmo said...

I can empathize with your nervous excitement as I too am looking at going back into the classroom after 8 yrs as a specialist. A suggestion would be putting the net books to good use via 2 interactive sites that can provide opportunities for interactive demonstrations and a quick formative assessment of where your kids' thinking is at: http://www.polleverywhere.com/ and http://www.explorelearning.com/
Good Luck

4/25/10 7:05 AM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Kelly, Sam, The Dukes (hi Sarah!), and MBelmo – thanks for the encouragement.

@MBelmo – Unfortunately for me, those netbooks are for Language Arts classes.

4/25/10 8:40 AM  

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Saturday, April 03, 2010

AHS Learning Ecology

So I stole built upon the idea of a "digital learning ecology" developed by Bud Hunt and team in St. Vrain Valley School District (and Bud and team built upon many others' ideas). While St. Vrain's learning ecology site was built as a resource for staff, I wanted to bring this down to the school level (particularly, my school) for use by both staff and students. So here's the first draft of the AHS Learning Ecology.

Basically I was trying to create a resource for students and staff that would help them think through the process for creating something digital. I wanted them to think about purpose and audience first, make a decision about whether this particular piece of work needs to be digital, and then give them some information about possible tools they might want to use.

One of my concerns with developing a site like this is that it might be too limiting. I don't want it to be restrictive ("for this type of purpose and audience you must use this tool"), and of course there are so many tools that it could also be overwhelming. So hopefully the site makes that clear and just gives them a few good tools to choose from. It's not meant to be the end all, be all of resources, just a place to help get them started.

So this is the first draft of the site, and I would really appreciate your feedback. It's definitely still a work in progress, and I hope to add a few more categories/tools (perhaps a Creative Commons/copyright free images and music search category, and maybe a miscellaneous category that would have things like Dropbox and Diigo that I couldn't figure out another category for). You can either leave a comment on this post, or email me with your thoughts.

My hope is to have an improved (because of your suggestions) site ready to go by the middle of May so that I can "officially" share it with my staff so that they can begin to incorporate it into their thinking for the fall. You'll also notice that most of the pages have a space for examples of good uses of the tool (currently blank). So I would also love it if you would give me links to what you think are good examples of uses of the various tools that I could populate those sections with. Thanks in advance for any feedback you're willing to share.

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Blogger Colette Cassinelli said...

I was thinking of doing something similar to this next year with my HS class "Digital Tools for Learning".

Go ahead and find examples now to place on the pages but them replace them with examples from your schools in the future. This will reward those who try out the tools.

Instead of listing the tools alphabetically, consider grouping them by type (publishing, communication, media, etc... That way - the teachers don't have to hunt through all of them to find what they are looking for. Or - create some type of directory on the main tool page.

Great work. I hope to "build on" some of your ideas too!

4/3/10 12:18 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Colette - Thanks for the feedback. Did you think that the table on the main tool page wasn't enough of a directory? I toyed with the idea of a "table of contents" at the top of the tool page, but was worried it was too much.

4/3/10 12:27 PM  
Blogger concretekax said...

I like what you are doing here. I think maybe you should put the headings that you have on the tools page on your tool bar instead of the names of the tools. Example put audio, blogs, and concept maps on the tool bar instead of listing the individual tools.

I also think there is a fine line between listing all of the best tools and overwhelming teachers who are not familiar with them. You know your staff and can make that call. Some tools that I would add would be Skype, Google Earth, Bookmarking- Delicious, Diigo, RSS aggregrators-Reader, Netvibes, backchannels such as Edmodo, today's meet,

I definitely like the idea of a page of Creative Commons resources. I would like to take your list of tools to my IT department as a list to whitelist :)

4/3/10 8:38 PM  
Blogger Brian Kuhn said...

Nice start to a good resource. It would be very helpful to have a creative commons 101 resource. I still find the official descriptions to be a bit fuzzy at times. For example, I use istockphoto pix that I buy using credits in presentations but am a bit unclear as to the rights I have to use the pix on say a web page or blog post. Making it real easy for educators and students to get the media rights piece would be helpful.

4/4/10 1:57 PM  
OpenID evolusin said...

Two examples:
This (http://tr.im/UltT)is the afterwards voiced presentation of an oral exam of me.
I started with a mind-map (http://mind42.com/pub/mindmap?mid=9a60df1c-4537-4e82-bd28-fb8ab5cec180),then I worked through the literature an made of some of the text also a mind-map. After that I started to build the presentation in prezi. To illustrate my points I added pics, which I edited with gimp. Some of them I scanned, some I found on flickr with the cc-tag (try also: http://www.sxc.hu/).

A year ago I had an other oral exam in the stile of a fake conference. I used my blog as a presentation-tool to illustrate the possibilities of web2.0. Here is an afterwards recorded video of screen and voice: http://evolusin.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/meine-modulabschlussprufung/

Hope I could ad a little bit to your ideas; otherwise - here are more web 2.0 tools listed (http://mind42.com/pub/mindmap?mid=7165a87d-930c-4ba2-9d79-2800c0c1a181).

4/5/10 2:54 AM  
Blogger John said...

Karl, this is an outstanding resource for matching digital tools to project purposes and audiences! I just passed on the link to the blog post and the AHS Learning Ecology site to our team of Instructional Technology Teachers in Fairbanks, AK. I was going to suggest having links to tools for similar purposes. For instance, adding links between Garage band and Audacity, or between Excel, Google Spreadsheets, and Calc. Tags might work better if they can be incorporated on google site pages. I really like the table on your tools main page! Brilliant work!

4/5/10 12:07 PM  
Blogger betsymac said...

Hi Karl,

This is a great resource due to the authenticity it’s built upon, I love the approach of starting with need and audience. Well done, I too will share this idea with my tech director. I see that the audience is high school, but I thought I’d comment on Kidblogs.org for anyone out there who might be developing a similar resource for ES/MS. I love Kidblog for my 6th graders, but find it too basic for a high school student. I wondered if you’re considering including more 2.0 resources such as Xtranormal, Aviary, Animoto, time-line tools (Dipity, TimeToast), Glogster, Weebly, Lifeyo? I appreciate wanting to keep the list brief as there is so much out here that it can be overwhelming, but maybe one more in each category would be okay. As for examples of some of these tools (sorry I don’t have links), I’ve had students perform their poems via Audacity to enhance their work via sound effects & music. I also have my students blog (via specific prompts) as an ‘exit card’ as a wrap up to that days’ lesson or even as a self-reflection at the end of a unit. I’ve also used Glogster as an end-of-unit self reflection to post text, videos & pictures of their work during our robotics unit. I really like what you’ve done here, thank you for sharing.
Betsy

4/5/10 1:35 PM  
Blogger Mr. ONeal said...

Mr. Fisch,
I love the idea of your site. I have been creating a site similar to yours but I haven't been following the any true structure. I plan on reorganizing my site to follow a similar structure to yours - if you don't mind. I have been using Ning as my "container" and found that it is extremely easy to use and very easy to modify. If you have the time please feel free to check it out - I, as you, would like as much feedback as possible.

http://onealtnt.ning.com/

4/5/10 7:30 PM  
Blogger Angela Cunningham said...

This is similar to, but definitely more complete than, the site I set up for my students. My idea was to put together a resource that would allow them to decide on the best tool for a particular project. To help them see the possibilities, I also added examples of creative ways the tool has been used...when available. As Colette mentioned, I hope to slowly replace all of the outside examples with ones from my classroom. I might even reward those whose projects make the site with ribbons or certificates suitable for the refrigerator.

The History Lab

4/11/10 10:49 AM  
Blogger Sam Blackman said...

ghMr. Fisch
My name is Sam Blackman and I am commenting on your post for my EDM 310 class at the University of South Alabama. I think this idea of Learning Ecology is a very usedful resource. To read my blog go to
blackmansamedm310.blogspot.com

4/18/10 6:52 PM  

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