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Sunday, March 07, 2010

Sometimes This Stuff Still Amazes Me

Just a quick post to note that I still find my own personal networked world to be pretty fascinating and amazing. Yesterday I was talking with my wife about a homework assignment Abby had in math where she needed to gather some data. So I threw together a quick Google Form, posted on my blog, and tweeted it out.

Very quickly the responses started coming in, mostly from Twitter I suspect because I doubt that many folks had seen the post at that point. (Next time I may add a question about where they found out about the survey just to confirm that.) About a day later we now have 299 responses (as of this writing) from 43 states and 18 countries (counting the U.S.). (You can see the results embedded in that post.)

Now this particular survey and this particular post are nothing earth-shattering, but it again reminds me of how different the world is from when I was growing up; how easy it is to connect with others around the world, and certainly how easy it is to gather data via Google Forms, a blog and Twitter. While I certainly still need to do a lot of thinking about how best to utilize this capability in meaningful ways, I think we all as educators need to be constantly asking ourselves the question, "What can we do now (that is relevant and meaningful for students) that we couldn't do before?"

Abby playing guitar for Grandma via Skype.

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Blogger Re N Vision said...

Parents doing their kid's homework - that's so 20th century! :)

3/7/10 7:10 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Re N Vision - I'm going to assume the smiley meant you were kidding but, just in case, Abby also collected data on her own. And, of course, the collection of the data wasn't the point of the assignment for her, it's what she does with it. Just in case.

3/7/10 7:49 PM  
Blogger Re N Vision said...

'Course I was.

3/7/10 8:03 PM  
Blogger rrr said...

don't forget that you did those amazing videos that brought to you some internet influence. That influence among other humans is the change that made possible so many answers to your (interesting) questions, not the technology itself.

3/8/10 2:30 AM  
Blogger Dave Truss said...

While commenter rrr makes a good point about "internet influence", I disagree that influence trumps the technology.

An amazing thing about the edtech community is their willingness to share and help. Often that can be something as simple as a re-text by someone with influence or it can be the diversity of choice... blog it, tweet it, facebook it, email it... to find the help that you seek.

I totally agree that 'this stuff' can be truly amazing!

3/8/10 6:34 AM  
Blogger Haley Green said...

"what can we do that we haven't already done?" Something tells me that people fifty years ago thought the same thing. When we went to the moon it was mind blowing for the people of that time. When we launched the first satellite, that was mind blowing. When dial up internet was accessible at the home, when the computer was available for the home the list goes on and on. I think to say we are at our limit as far as progress goes is a cop out. A way to say "oh well, good enough."

3/8/10 12:29 PM  
Blogger David Mathis said...

I'm from South Alabama, in Dr. Strange's EDM310 Class, I used my PLN(Personal Learning Network) to help me with a project in the class. My partner and I on this project contacted a few teachers met, and asked if they use podcast in their classroom. So, long story short, the PLN came in handy. I was amazed how quickly they responded to our email. Also, google Docs is very helpful tool to use in many ways.

3/8/10 2:29 PM  
Blogger Ryan said...

Regarding what Dave Truss and Rrr stated above. It's about both the technology that allows this to happen, AND the "internet influence".

If someone like Karl, or Will Richardson or anyone with significant "Internet Influence" posts a question, that person will quickly get results. Twitter, blogs etc are extremely powerful for these people.

If I (not having the same influence) post similar questions I of course get less useful results. Most students would be faced with similar results.

Is it important or at least useful to build our internet influence so that these tools become more powerful? Yes, certainly, but there's some capacity to the amount of influence that can be shared out there. People can only efficiently follow a small amount of others, so there will always be an elite circle of influencers that experience the more amazing results (like 299 for a child's survey)

Don't get me wrong, I am constantly amazed at how I (small influence me) can utilize these tools in this way. I'm just observing that not everyone gets the same experience as Karl Fisch! (And also, don't get me wrong, he deserves it ...)

3/9/10 5:10 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@Ryan - I'm not in the same category as Will, but thanks anyway.

I don't know, I think we can all build our own networks (and we all should), that would get just as good results as someone that theoretically has more "influence" as you put it. I don't think the total number of responses particularly matters as much as the connections you can make.

If we help our students build their own networks, I think they will get similarly meaningful and relevant results. Good (and interesting) things tend to spread pretty easily, and if we're intentional about how we connect students with others around the world, they will have those networks to draw on.

3/9/10 5:55 PM  
Blogger diane said...

I notice that Abby works on a very nice computer at home ;-)

3/9/10 8:31 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@diane - Well, that's usually the one I or my wife get to work on, but she gets to Skype on it (and use it when we're not)! We have an old PC from my father-in-law that is her day-to-day computer for now, waiting a little bit longer until I get her her own new one.

3/9/10 9:08 PM  
Blogger Diane E. Main, GCT NorCal 2006 said...

Karl, I am so glad you did this with her. But I am also dismayed that she's not getting to do this at school. I am currently working on a project with my middle schoolers that is very similar. They had to come up with two variables they believed may be related, determine which was dependent and which was independent, and survey at least 50 people, including 25 or more of their peers at our school. We used to do this with paper and pencil and then type the responses into Excel. Last year, I began having them use Google Forms and Spreadsheets. They LOVE it. I post a link to a page containing links to ALL my students' surveys on a Google Site, then I use Twitter and Facebook to publicize that site. Some of my students have gotten well over 100 responses in just a few days to a week. My PLN isn't huge, but some people retweeted my request, and a lot of friends and family saw it on Facebook and helped out.

When we look at ISTE's NETS*S standards, THIS is true authentic learning that happens to involve technology to not only engage kids but also provide results that would be more like what our students will likely face in their careers.

Thanks for sharing, and if you want to increase my kids' learning personally, please feel free to take a few surveys here: http://sites.google.com/site/studentsurveysproject/grades-7-and-8

3/9/10 9:35 PM  
Blogger David said...

This looks like an interesting assignment. I agree it is amazing how far we have come in such a short time.

I'm just curious, what did Abby and her class do with the data after they collected it? How did it turn out?

3/10/10 9:18 PM  
Blogger amyw said...

Abby is lucky to have such technologically aware parents :)

3/17/10 11:12 AM  
Blogger mckinnellkellyedm310 said...

Technology in today's society is truly amazing! Being able to communicated to so many in people in places all over the world in such a short matter of time, really shows us all how much technology has changed our world. I bet Abby really enjoyed the results from so many different countries!

3/21/10 3:24 PM  
Blogger jody.eu said...

Found an interesting article which you might be interested in http://mathga.me/m29
The modern classroom must change to suit student's needs.

Also, another good math site to step up student's classroom engagement http://www.mangahigh.com/

3/24/10 6:39 AM  
Blogger Jennifer Cronk said...

Karl- just a quick FYI, I posed the question I go from your blog to my Advanced Computer Applications students, but I had them re-phrase it. "What can your educators do for you now?" in the context of technology.

I posed it to be a idea generator.

I am interested in what they have...

3/24/10 8:05 AM  
Blogger Isabelle said...

You pose such a thought provoking question. We really must push ourselves as educators to seek out the future tools of our trade and apply them in our classrooms. There are so many tools available to us now, but the nature of technology is that those tools are contantly changing, and at a rapid rate. We have to keep our eyes open to how our students are learning and make sure that we are keeping them engaged with relevant strategies. What you did for your daughter's assignment inspires me to work harder as an educator. Thanks!

4/15/10 11:59 AM  
Blogger Jared said...

Hi Karl! I'm a student who is studying to become a teacher. I was really interested in how you used Google Forms, a blog, and Twitter to gather information from people. I think that using the same set up that you used for the survey you could also use to gather information from students and use that data as statics to be used in class. It is crazy to me the opportunities students have today compared to what they had ten years ago.

4/20/10 6:30 PM  
Blogger Wes Guy said...

I think it is neat how there are some ways to collect data these days. When I was younger you use to have to call or write someone to get some information on a project you were doing. But, now kids can punch things in computers and even ask questions. on the computer.

4/26/10 6:41 PM  

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Open Letter on Behalf of the NWP

(Note: This is not my post, but rather a re-post of Zac Chase's post. Feel free to repost or send to your representative.)


The Gist:

  • The current draft of the federal budget cuts direct funding for the National Writing Project.
  • The NWP has been one of the few extremely successful examples of a nationally-networked effort to improve K-12 writing for 36 years.
  • We must communicate with Congress to change the budget.

The Whole Story:

Dear Rep. Fattah, Sen. Casey and Sen. Specter:

I write to you on behalf of the National Writing Project. More precisely, I write to you on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of students and teachers the program has transformed over its 36 years.

Under the budget proposed by President Obama, national funding for the NWP would be cut. In a Feb. 1 press release from the U.S. Department of Education, the NWP was lumped in with 5 other projects losing funding because the DOE claims they “duplicate local or state programs or have not had a significant measurable impact.”

As the NWP is unique as a networked writing instruction program with 200+ local sites serving all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands, I am left to believe Sec. Duncan is claiming the NWP falls under the category of not having a “significant measurable impact.”

This too is untrue.

A 1987 longitudinal study on the effects of the NWP by Kathy Krendl and Julie Dodd found participating third through twelfth graders showed an increase “in interest in learning about writing, in their level of confidence, and in their association of self-esteen with good writing.

Not only that, the study also found a decrease “in students’ feelings of discomfort about completing writing assignments and in their feelings that they do not write well and that writing is difficult.”

In a 2007 study of the NWP’s Local Site Research Initiative, across nine localities students showed significant or non-significant favorable results in all seven categories.

This should not have been surprising considering the DOE’s own data listed the NWP as exceeding its performance targets in 2001. Indeed participants’ ratings across all categories ranged from 95-88 percent reporting positive impact at their follow-up assessment of the program. This went well above the program’s target of 75 percent in each category.

Were this simply an impassioned plea, I would have hesitated to write. The data speaks for itself, the National Writing Project has offered a significant return on investment in its 36 year history. Federal funding for the NWP must be maintained if we are to continue striving to meet the Project’s goal of “a future where every person is an accomplished writer, engaged learner, and active participant in a digital, interconnected world.”

I thank your for your time and attention to this matter. Please, let me know if I can be of any assistance.

Sincerely,

Zachary Chase

English Teacher

Science Leadership Academy

Philadelphia, PA

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Saturday, March 06, 2010

Trivia Survey for a 4th Grade Math Lesson

If you have a moment, please take this short survey (also embedded below). It should take about 2-3 minutes. It's a little contrived as you will only answer some of the questions as there are age requirements in order to manipulate the results to have a different number of responses for each question (this is going to be an intro to percents).

Feel free to take this whenever you read this, but Abby needs her results by Tuesday, March 9th. Thanks in advance.






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Blogger PNaugle said...

Hi Karl,
Please tell Abby that I teach 4th graders math in Louisiana. My students are using Google forms to create census surveys. I am interested in why she set age restrictions on some of her questions. I am also interested in hearing how she will use this survey in her math class.

I tweeted out this link and wish her good luck with her survey.

3/6/10 3:07 PM  
Blogger Karl Fisch said...

@PNaugle - The age restrictions are purely to end up with a different number of responses to each question. The activity is trying to setup the discussion around how do you compare numbers when there are a different number of responses. So, if 50 people read a book and 62 ate at a fast-food restaurant, does that mean that more people ate at a fast-food restaurant? Not necessarily, if only 60 people answered the book question and 200 answered the fast food one. This leads them into talking about percents as a way to compare.

A little contrived to get there, but still worthwhile I think.

3/6/10 3:52 PM  
Blogger Derek said...

Hi Karl,
My name is Derek and I'm a graduate student at San Diego State University and we're currently studying blog sites. I really liked this survey that was inserted into your post. I noticed that it was part of Google Docs. I hadn't though of using a blog to collect data like this.
Thanks for the great idea!

3/15/10 11:07 AM  
Blogger Wes Guy said...

I like the way you found out what people did of all ages. I even like the age restrictions,since not everyone does the say thing. It's a good way to get things done in math with a different routine. Math can get a little boring.

4/26/10 5:47 PM  

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