tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post115879176856408358..comments2024-03-22T08:16:45.553-06:00Comments on The Fischbowl: What If?Karl Fischhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11121548023409279686noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-75205552340657858112014-06-16T15:29:22.986-06:002014-06-16T15:29:22.986-06:00Technology can a good and a bad in the classroom. ...Technology can a good and a bad in the classroom. This seems to be a more of a problem at the second education level, than primary, where I teach and have experience. At our school, we are told to put our cell phones away and silence them in order not to disturb the class. I do this daily. The only time I take out my cell phone is to check the time during recess duty in order to line up students for lunch.<br />I consider myself old fashion and not big on students having cell phones or other hand held technologies in the classroom, unless part of the curriculum. This is an adminstrative decision and will go along with their choice. My elementary students are not allowed to have cell phones in the classroom, unless it is in their backpack. They are allowed the last minute of the day to check messages. If a parent wants to get a hold of them, they can do it through the office. In my opinion, Karl is correct. I hate cell phones in any public area.Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-42749144143819899822012-03-08T19:03:33.895-07:002012-03-08T19:03:33.895-07:00Caz - Sure, go right ahead. Keep in mind the video...<b>Caz</b> - Sure, go right ahead. Keep in mind the video is a bit dated now. Also keep in mind that for older posts like this comments are moderated so they won't show up right away until I approve them.Karl Fischhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121548023409279686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-9368748069412386472012-03-08T10:09:46.818-07:002012-03-08T10:09:46.818-07:00Karl, I'd like to show both the video and have...Karl, I'd like to show both the video and have teacher read the blog and then respond to you. Some of my teachers have never responded to a blog... Please let me know if you are ok with this. Thanks, Caz (cbadynee@sd25.org)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-43086722866764676292011-10-30T19:05:10.713-06:002011-10-30T19:05:10.713-06:00Dear Mr. Fisch
I really like this post and I thin...Dear Mr. Fisch<br /> I really like this post and I think that you made some really good points on the use of technology in classrooms. I agree that a more personal discussion from a teacher would be more effective than just reading a sign that says not to. Just the sign makes people feel that they are just blindly following with no real reason. There would be much more reason behind it if it actually came from another human being. Not every student uses cell phones to cheat, and that being said I don't think that it is fair to deprive every student of the great things that cell phones or ipods can do for us. Since when has man invented something this great and then limited the heights at which we could take it? Just because pencil and paper is the way things have been done that doesn't mean that its the best way. I don't know if other countries allow students to utilize these tools but it would be interesting to find out if it is a negative or positive influence. Something tells me it will be for the good of the students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-6838479053622906222011-10-30T19:04:51.777-06:002011-10-30T19:04:51.777-06:00Dear Mr. Fisch
I really like this post and I thin...Dear Mr. Fisch<br /> I really like this post and I think that you made some really good points on the use of technology in classrooms. I agree that a more personal discussion from a teacher would be more effective than just reading a sign that says not to. Just the sign makes people feel that they are just blindly following with no real reason. There would be much more reason behind it if it actually came from another human being. Not every student uses cell phones to cheat, and that being said I don't think that it is fair to deprive every student of the great things that cell phones or ipods can do for us. Since when has man invented something this great and then limited the heights at which we could take it? Just because pencil and paper is the way things have been done that doesn't mean that its the best way. I don't know if other countries allow students to utilize these tools but it would be interesting to find out if it is a negative or positive influence. Something tells me it will be for the good of the students.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-6144823619824640152011-08-01T17:23:34.067-06:002011-08-01T17:23:34.067-06:00John Wick - Thornburg, David. Edutrends 2010: Rest...<b>John Wick</b> - Thornburg, David. Edutrends 2010: Restructuring, Technology, and the Future of Education. Starsong Publications, 1992.Karl Fischhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11121548023409279686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-81288151080492307882011-08-01T17:21:31.871-06:002011-08-01T17:21:31.871-06:00This is outstanding. I am a technology coordinator...This is outstanding. I am a technology coordinator for a school and I have been asked to provide some PD for my faculty and visiting faculty regarding integrating technology into the curriculum, easing fears, etc. I am going to start with this "what if" presentation (I may modify for my own needs) but it is outstanding. <br /><br />I have always loved David Thornburg's works. I was just curious which of his books you found this information in, as I would like to read it.<br /><br />Be well!<br /><br />-JWJohn Wickhttp://www.revogogy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-65305029601007150202011-04-16T13:19:06.128-06:002011-04-16T13:19:06.128-06:00It looks like the video on Google's video serv...It looks like the video on Google's video service will be taken down at the end of the month as they take down that service. Are you planning to load the video onto YouTube? Thanks in advanceDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15692933157504773093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-219096898310549562009-06-16T09:53:07.976-06:002009-06-16T09:53:07.976-06:00I really enjoyed the "what if" powerpoin...I really enjoyed the "what if" powerpoint. It made me start to think about all the changes that have been made in education since I began teaching in the 80's.<br />I have a grandchild that will begin kindergarten in the fall and it totally blows my mind to think about all the new technology, he will encounter. I really appreciate the statement by David Thornburg, "prepare students for the future not the past."lynnshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708718386134101728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-58796858640568976022008-01-28T00:12:00.000-07:002008-01-28T00:12:00.000-07:00Excellent article. I totally agree with Karl. I th...Excellent article. I totally agree with Karl. I think that electronic devices plays an important role in our life so we can't issue blanket statements banning their use.aanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07991512966287333059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-46459062558025830242007-12-11T08:10:00.000-07:002007-12-11T08:10:00.000-07:00There are signs posted? I didn't even notice them....There are signs posted? I didn't even notice them. I don't think that this rule is entirely fair because of how strict it is. I do agree that cellphones, and ipods are distractions although its the students decision weather they use them or listen in class. It could be the difference in them passing or failing the class. But afterall that is there choice and overtime students will realize what is more important but they have to learn that on their own.TraciAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00335696652335080051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-36679013451318340712007-04-14T11:41:00.000-06:002007-04-14T11:41:00.000-06:00Ah, yes, well what IS the music?Ah, yes, well what IS the music?Paul B. Hartzoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12450175752064231560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-22181127939813291492007-03-09T06:45:00.000-07:002007-03-09T06:45:00.000-07:00Just read this. There's a related conversation goi...Just read this. There's a related conversation going on at <A HREF="http://throughlines.blogspot.com/2007/03/long-day-today.html" REL="nofollow">Bruce Schauble's blog</A> which you might find interesting, as it starts with a parent's input, something that is missing from your discussion here.<BR/><BR/>Great music, by the way. I first heard this when I was a teenager, and was shocked that someone could write music that could move me so. It's just music, man! But it seems to carry the pathos of the entire human race in it, at least to this listener.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-437996560287477352007-03-08T23:27:00.000-07:002007-03-08T23:27:00.000-07:00Thanks Karl for sharing your experiences and views...Thanks Karl for sharing your experiences and views once again!<BR/><BR/>I have shared some comments and experiences as well on my blog http://123elearning.blogspot.com/2007/03/can-i-video-tug-of-war-with-my-mobile.html<BR/><BR/>Julie Lindsay<BR/>BangladeshJulie Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05043807289251144925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1159587246145922202006-09-29T21:34:00.000-06:002006-09-29T21:34:00.000-06:00I love your blog and have referred to it a few tim...I love your blog and have referred to it a few times. Thank you for sharing your powerful ability to communicate so effectively. We need a lot more educators like you!<BR/>http://macmomma.blogspot.com/2006/09/please-turn-off-all-electronic-devices.htmlLee Kolberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14710085354049378555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1159307982231544392006-09-26T15:59:00.000-06:002006-09-26T15:59:00.000-06:00You really should have been an English teacher, Ka...You really should have been an English teacher, Karl--you understand the power of words and your creative powerpoints "break the frozen sea" (Kafka) inside of your audience.<BR/><BR/>I never did post the sign about cell phones, etc., and now that I've read your post, I'm glad I didn't. Every once in a while a cell phone will ring, and the owner quickly turns it off, giving me a sheepish grin. I've seen the same expression on adult faces in the theater, restaurants, or other public places. We always talk about teaching our students respect by showing them respect--and I'm even bothered by teachers who drink coffee or water in front of students when we don't allow them to do the same. I was always taught it was impolite to eat and drink in front of others if they didn't have the same opportunity. So thank you for your clear, but diplomatic reminder that we allow our students the same technological advantages as we have. And thank you for another impressive powerpoint!mferrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987275183514293236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1159224409641778062006-09-25T16:46:00.000-06:002006-09-25T16:46:00.000-06:00Well, once again you blew me away, Karl. I must a...Well, once again you blew me away, Karl. I must admit that I posted that sign in my classroom. Last year I was annoyed by the constant text-messaging that went on during classes. My own sons spend class time socializing with their friends via text messages, and I've often reprimanded them for spending valuable learning time in such foolish ways. It just seemed "right" to forbid the phones. Your power point makes me realize that the phones can be useful and that they aren't necessarily anathema to education....Amazing.........Cheryl Makovskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04692413352688965561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1159200598928913902006-09-25T10:09:00.000-06:002006-09-25T10:09:00.000-06:00It was at NECC that I began to see the error of ou...It was at NECC that I began to see the error of our ways. Less than a year ago, I had 18 cell phones in my jacket and pants pockets as the Colorado Supreme Court held hearings at Arapahoe...and they were vibrating nonstop. I assumed each was being used to simply text friends. One young lady said, "But we were using them to talk about the case." I responded with a "Nice try." Then she showed me. But I was till skeptical of what the others were doing.<BR/><BR/>At NECC, I began to see the potential for positive uses - especially for iPods and yes, even cell phones. I have yet to try some of the ideas I have due to learning how to use the laptops first. No the signs haven't impacted my thinking. <BR/><BR/>By the way, nice job, again, Karl!Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916259314014374466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1159113851832404802006-09-24T10:04:00.000-06:002006-09-24T10:04:00.000-06:00In response to Mr. Jansen:We ARE allowed to carry ...In response to Mr. Jansen:<BR/>We ARE allowed to carry our cell phones in the non-academic areas of the school. The cafeteria and the halls are not off-limits for cell phones. What Mr. Fisch is proposing is the possibility of allowing students to utilize their phones and other electronic devices in class, for educational purposes. If done responsibly, this could be a great tool for the classroom. Since many students own a cell phone or an iPod, this could be another opportunity to integrate technology into education.Michelle Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03755193636868558355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1158957468162184832006-09-22T14:37:00.001-06:002006-09-22T14:37:00.001-06:00Thanks for putting together this presentation! Tw...Thanks for putting together this presentation! Two days ago I was in Biology lab and the students needed a timer to check on an experiment every five minutes. They asked, "can we set our cell phone as an alarm?" My instinct was to say no, but I said yes. It's an easy way to keep track of time, why shouldn't they use it? I knew there was at leeast one student per group that had a phone on them! I feel that students are responsive to us when we ask them to put away their i-pods and cell phones, and occasionally a phone plays me a tune in class, but it's always followed by an apology and a quick push of the off button.M. Waymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07064103090160857572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1158957459050766492006-09-22T14:37:00.000-06:002006-09-22T14:37:00.000-06:00Just to show you how long I've been around, I reme...Just to show you how long I've been around, I remember when one of our English teachers learned that one of her students had a computer at home that would CHECK HIS SPELLING AND GRAMMAR FOR HIM, and how could that possibly be fair? The other students didn't have such advanced equipment. Should this student be allowed to use his computer? It gave him an unfair advantage. I also remember reading Howard Gardner years ago, regarding multiple intelligences; he commented that one's intelligence could also be measured by the scope of information one had access to. In other words, perhaps our students' intelligence decreases if we take away their cell phones, or increases when we give them a laptop in class.T Salehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09051454989920919331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1158852540473319402006-09-21T09:29:00.000-06:002006-09-21T09:29:00.000-06:00My jaw dropped open a little more with every new s...My jaw dropped open a little more with every new slide in this power point. How crazy is hind sight? It gave me a lot to think about and rethink about. Just when I have my thougths about teaching and education straight you come along. I guess that means your doing your job huh?!?bkitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05950261563703794986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1158851869756496962006-09-21T09:17:00.000-06:002006-09-21T09:17:00.000-06:00Excellent Karl,Your question "What if the Vice Pre...Excellent Karl,<BR/><BR/>Your question "What if the Vice President comes to visit (as has happened before at AHS) – is he supposed to leave his pacemaker at the door?" left me laughing and then I began to think ... but this is not the place to get into politics. :-)<BR/><BR/>Thank you for sharing!<BR/>ROBrob banninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12121727631592909094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1158851349032647282006-09-21T09:09:00.000-06:002006-09-21T09:09:00.000-06:00Good job Mr. Fisch. We started this conversation ...Good job Mr. Fisch. We started this conversation during our last CIT class, and you've continued it in a much more eloquent (not to mention global) way. I think what we need to remind ourselves of is how often we as teachers use cell phones, mp3 players and electronic devices...my LCD projector is on every single day, and most teachers I know have their cell phones attached to their belts as they teach. It seems we need to talk to students about how and when to use these tools appropriately rather than dismissing their use altogether.Cara S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12580541509477048236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1158848858925422122006-09-21T08:27:00.000-06:002006-09-21T08:27:00.000-06:00Thank you once again for being a champion for many...Thank you once again for being a champion for many teachers. The slides were excellent. I have passed them on to my administration and have had positive comments.<BR/><BR/>You always provide an enjoyable read and powerful content.<BR/><BR/>Chris Harbeck<BR/>Sargent Park School<BR/>sargentparkmathzone.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com