tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post113885195774232587..comments2024-03-22T08:16:45.553-06:00Comments on The Fischbowl: Can Students Articulate the Vision?Karl Fischhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11121548023409279686noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1139090108032588692006-02-04T14:55:00.000-07:002006-02-04T14:55:00.000-07:00Our next department meeting will challenge the tea...Our next department meeting will challenge the teachers in Social STudies to see if they can do this. My prediction: no. If I ask a Western Civ junior teacher what essesntial skills and knowledge he or she expects the students to have when they walk in the room OR what senior year teachers need of him or her, my hunch is that we create a response, but it isn't something that has been addressed weel (or at all) in the last decade. If we can't, how can studets. I hope I'm wrong, but...Meyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916259314014374466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1138891929326593362006-02-02T07:52:00.000-07:002006-02-02T07:52:00.000-07:00In order for our students to buy into and grasp ou...In order for our students to buy into and grasp our vision, I think there needs to be one. We touched on this during our December discussion. If 10 teachers at AHS were asked to articulate our vision, would there be 8 (9 on a good day) excellent responses? I don't mean to be negative towards anyone as a teacher or an individual. I just agree with Brian that we don't know what our common goals are. Sure, we'd probably all agree that it's to challenge kids, make them life-long learners, and get "them prepared for the real world" (I'm quoting myself from a post way back about testing!) But, do our classrooms really reflect that on a daily basis? I know I've got miles to go...<BR/><BR/>I agree with Molly that there would be some awesome power in making students aware of and involved in our vision, we just need to do that as a staff first.Cara S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12580541509477048236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1138859074488732932006-02-01T22:44:00.000-07:002006-02-01T22:44:00.000-07:00I am actually afraid of what the students would sa...I am actually afraid of what the students would say. Not just the 2 that would not give "good" or well thought out responses. Since I sometimes wonder what the vision is, in my little world, I findit hard to believe that the students would be able to talk about it. Perhaps, I am not giving the studens enough credit. Molly says some important things. School should be for the studnets and I am not sure that "we" and I mean "I" always remember that. Some of the things that I do on a daily basis are not geared to help the students the most but are setup to help my day be easy. I know, I know, this is wrong but I still do it. Molly is also on to the idea that if the students know where they are headed then they take a more active role in their education. (At least that is what I think I am hearing, or I am just making that up?)<BR/><BR/>As far as Karl's question, the one about if we think the students are "capable of grasping it," I think that as educators we need to think that way. If we doubt the cognative abilities of the students then we are attempting to put them in our own little boxes. Then we go further and limit the amount of skill development that we allow them to explore. I think the current problem is that I do not communicate the "vision" or purpose or goal with my students and I just expect them to know it. The concern I have is how do I move past this?Hatakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12809409284770263323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16660456.post-1138857481959104742006-02-01T22:18:00.000-07:002006-02-01T22:18:00.000-07:00I really like this way of thinking. If anything i...I really like this way of thinking. If anything is every going to get done, we should know about it shouldn't we? School exists for students, it's simply a fact, so when students are not informed as to the goal or point of being educated, half the value is lost. It simply becomes a lesson in direction following as opposed to critical thinking skills we will need.MollyGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10734141484506665059noreply@blogger.com